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Death penalty should be icluded in the Greek Justice

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Started: 1/25/2015 Category: Politics
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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marinagkav

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Death penalty, also called capital punishment, is when a government or state executes (kills) someone, usually because they have done something wrong.

Executions in most countries have become rarer in recent centuries. The death penalty is a disputed and controversial topic.

About one third of the countries in the world have laws that allow the death penalty.[1] The United States, The People's Republic of China, Japan and Iran are examples of countries that have a death penalty. Canada, Australia, Mexico and all members of Council of Europe are examples of countries that have abolished the death penalty.

Over half the countries in the world have gotten rid of the death penalty in law and practice: 75 countries have gotten rid of the capital punishment for all crimes and another 20 can be considered abolitionist in practice. The latter retain the death penalty in law but have not carried out any executions for the past 10 years or more.

Most of the countries that have a death penalty use it on murderers, and for other serious crimes such as rape or terrorism. Other countries especially ones with Authoritarian or Totalitar
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16kadams

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My opponent has plagiarized most—if not all—of his arguments from here (http://simple.wikipedia.org...). Thus, conduct points should go to me.


R1) Most countries oppose the death penalty


This is a fairly weak argument. Merely because most countries oppose the death penalty does not mean the death penalty is unjust or should not be used. Most countries in 1700 had slavery, but that does not mean slavery is just. Most countries currently have a war on terror or ban drugs, but this does not mean those laws are just. In fact, many laws are arguably unjust. Therefore, the fact most countries oppose the death penalty does not mean that the death penalty is wrong.


Although death penalty support has fallen in the UK, a country where the death penalty (DP) is banned, support for the DP is still higher than those who oppose it by 6% [1].


R2) Tyranny


Again, Con uses similar arguments as he did above. Merely because tyrannical governments exercise the ability to execute criminals—or, in some cases, threats to the state—does not mean we cannot have a system where the death penalty is improved and can represent a healthy justice system.


C1) The Death Penalty acts as a deterrent


The vast majority of published research since 1999 supports the notion that usage of the death penalty reduces crime. 17 studies show it reduces crime, whereas only 5 claim it is not a deterrent, and 2 say we cannot conclude either way [2]. So, to a 17-5-2 ratio, the studies prove the death penalty reduces homicide rates.


C2) The Death Penalty is just


The justice system is based upon a system called proportionality. The worse crime you commit, the worse punishment you should receive. Taking away someone’s life is the worst retributive punishment you could inflict. Thus, there would obviously be a point where the DP would be required to give justice. Even if you think one murder isn’t enough to warrant the DP, would you move to execute Hitler? Stalin? Mao? Of course we would. As Edward Fesser argues, “it would be absurd to deny that there is a level of criminality for which capital punishment is appropriate, at least in principle.”[3]


Thus, the death penalty *should* be used in any system where proportionality is used in the justice system. In Greece and other western countries, this is the case. Therefore, for justice to actually exist, there should be a death penalty.


1. https://yougov.co.uk...


2. http://www.cjlf.org...


3. http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com...


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