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nargiz_gab
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Yin
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Death penalty should be supported.

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 6/16/2013 Category: Entertainment
Updated: 4 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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nargiz_gab

Pro

The United Nations in 2008 banned the use of the death penalty, however fifty-eight countries, including the United States and China, still exercise the death penalty. As such, the topic remains highly controversial. I believe that some criminals lost their human faces while they made chain of serious crimes and there's no other punishment for them but death penalty.
Yin

Con

Thank you, nargiz_gab, for initializing the debate. I accept and will be arguing that the death penalty ought not be supported.

I request that for the second round we each advance our arguments in support of our respective positions and that for round three, the final round, we counter argue the each other's argument in the previous round in addition to summarizing our respective positions thereby concluding the debate.

I invite nargiz_gab to advance his argument as to why the death penalty ought to be supported.
Debate Round No. 1
nargiz_gab

Pro

nargiz_gab forfeited this round.
Yin

Con

I am disappointed that nargiz_gab has forfeited this round.

However, I would like to present my argument for why the death penalty ought not be supported and to do so I would like to explore the reasons that the UN’s General Assembly gave in support for its 2008 moratorium on the death penalty (UN resolution 62/149).

I quote:

"Considering that the use of the death penalty undermines human dignity, and convinced that a moratorium on the use of the death penalty contributes to the enhancement and progressive development of human rights, that there is no conclusive evidence of the deterrent value of the death penalty and that any miscarriage or failure of justice in the implementation of the death penalty is irreversible and irreparable." [1]

The reasons the UN gives in support against the death penalty are thus:
a) That the death penalty undermines human dignity.
b) That not using the death penalty would strengthen human rights.
c) That the deterrent value of the death penalty is inconclusive.
d) That any miscarriage or failure of justice using the death penalty is irreversible and irreparable.

The thrust of my argument will rest on d), that any miscarriage or failure of justice using the death penalty is irreversible and irreparable.

We, as humans, are liable to err (we’re not omniscient) and therefore miscarriages of justice will occur. We are, in a word, fallible. Now, if the death penalty was not instituted and an alternative, say, life imprisonment was instituted instead, then we allow ourselves an opportunity to rectify any miscarriages of justice that do occur. What good is it to the innocent person, who was wrongly executed, to know that a court, upon further examination of existing or even new evidence, found that person posthumously not guilty? It is, therefore, irreparable since the, later found, innocent person is already dead.

Consequently, however expedient the death penalty may be, we ought not, on the principle that humans are liable to err, support the death penalty since miscarriages of justice will occur and that any miscarriage of justice using the death penalty, by definition, is irreversible and irreparable.

I eagerly await nargiz_gab’s response.

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[1] United Nation's General Assembly Resolution 62/149, http://www.un.org...
Debate Round No. 2
nargiz_gab

Pro

nargiz_gab forfeited this round.
Yin

Con

Disappointingly, nargiz_gab has once again forfeited his opportunity to advance his arguments. I, however, will reiterate why the death penalty ought not be supported.

Humans are not omniscient, thus uncertainty as to someone's guilt will exist. If the death penalty was instituted, miscarriages of justice will occur, miscarriages which, by their very nature, are irreversible and irreparable. Therefore, to maintain the legitimacy of the justice system, the death penalty ought not be supported, however expedient it may be.

Thank you, once again, to nargiz_gab for initiating this debate.
Debate Round No. 3
1 comment has been posted on this debate.
Posted by Yin 4 years ago
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:D, When I said 'initializing' I meant 'initiating'! Good luck, nargiz_gab.
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