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16kadams
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Mysterio
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Death penalty

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16kadams
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 10/20/2011 Category: Politics
Updated: 5 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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16kadams

Pro

I believe the death penalty is a punishment worth supporting. Now here's what the supreme court says, "Indeed, the decision that capital punishment may be the appropriate sanction in extreme cases is an expression of the community's belief that certain crimes are themselves so grievous an affront to humanity that the only adequate response may be the penalty of death."

~ Supreme Court of the United States of America
I personally agree with them, and also their the leaders in their profession.

Also it has religious backing. here are some bible references: The death penalty was first instituted by God Himself in Genesis 9:6: "Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man." We Humans didn't invent the death penalty, so why abandon the words of god. Here's another example: Revelation 13:10 says, "He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints." Well if the bible says it multiple times, I think it is valid and important.
Mysterio

Con

I accept. I don't believe in the death penalty.
Debate Round No. 1
16kadams

Pro

This debate is to say what your opinion is about the death penalty.

In my opinion the death penalty is closure for the people who have gone through these horrific event. Although one of this will make the harmed person alive and/or forget what happened, but I think the death penalty helps the people get their an eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth feeling. A death sentence brings finality to a horrible chapter in the lives of these family members.

It is a form of crime deterrent. Some people say that this is false because statistics prove otherwise, here's how it still does. There are 18,000 people on death row on average. Only a few ever get the dealing. If most of those people got the punishment then I could guarantee that crime would lower. And most of the people aren't appealed out of the process, they are sitting in jail for 15 years and then getting killed by a fellow inmate. So most of them aren't innocents getting let out.

Justice is better served. The most fundamental principle of justice is that the punishment should fit the crime. When someone plans and brutally murders another person, doesn't it make sense that the punishment for the perpetrator also be death?

Our justice system shows more sympathy for criminals than it does victims. It's time we put the emphasis of our criminal justice system back on protecting the victim rather than the accused. Remember, a person who's on death row has almost always committed crimes before this. A long line of victims have been waiting for justice. We need justice for current and past victims.

There is no alternative. Even if you are in a life sentence without parole you can still be let out. Here's a good example of a crazed baby killer let out of jail at this link: http://www.prodeathpenalty.com... there are multiple people in this listing.

"That the death penalty, for murder in the commission of armed robbery, each year saves the lives of scores, if not hundreds of victims of such crimes cannot reasonably be doubted by any judge who has had substantial experience at the trial court level with the handling of such persons." -- The Honorable B. Rey Shauer, Justice of the Supreme Court of California
Mysterio

Con

Mysterio forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
16kadams

Pro

My arguments still stand. But I will press more argument to solidify my view.

Others say that states which do have the death penalty have higher crime rates than those that don't, that a more severe punishment only inspires more severe crimes. I must point out that every state in the union is different. These differences include the populations, number of cities, and yes, the crime rates. Strongly urbanized states are more likely to have higher crime rates than states that are more rural, such as those that lack capital punishment. The states that have capital punishment are compelled to have it due to their higher crime rates, not the other way around.

Abolitionists also hold the notion that criminals do not fear death because they do not take time to think about the consequences of their acts. If that were true, then I wonder how police officers manage to arrest criminals without killing them. When a policeman holds a criminal at gunpoint and tells him to get on the ground, the criminal will comply fully in the vast majority of of these cases. Why would they do that unless they were afraid of the lethal power of the gun? It is because regardless of what abolitionists claim, criminals are not immune to fear! It is a common misconception to believe that fear is a thought process that has to be worked out with a piece of paper. It's not! It is an instinct that automatically kicks in when one is faced with lethal force! The examples below should confirm that point.

During the temporary suspension on capital punishment from 1972-1976, researchers gathered murder statistics across the country. In 1960, there were 56 executions in the USA and 9,140 murders. By 1964, when there were only 15 executions, the number of murders had risen to 9,250. In 1969, there were no executions and 14,590 murders, and 1975, after six more years without executions, 20,510 murders occurred rising to 23,040 in 1980 after only two executions since 1976. In summary, between 1965 and 1980, the number of annual murders in the United States skyrocketed from 9,960 to 23,040, a 131 percent increase. The murder rate -- homicides per 100,000 persons -- doubled from 5.1 to 10.2. So the number of murders grew as the number of executions shrank. Researcher Karl Spence of Texas A&M University said:

"While some [death penalty] abolitionists try to face down the results of their disastrous experiment and still argue to the contrary, the...[data] concludes that a substantial deterrent effect has been observed...In six months, more Americans are murdered than have killed by execution in this entire century...Until we begin to fight crime in earnest [by using the death penalty], every person who dies at a criminal's hands is a victim of our inaction."

Also, not only this, but if you are religious then this applies too. instead of talking here is one site that is for the Catholics: http://www.roman-catholic.com... ( ignore the abortion stuff )

And for you protestants here is what your leade4rs say: http://pro-dp.appspot.com... So there are not only studies and facts, but also religion if you believe in that.
Mysterio

Con

Mysterio forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by 16kadams 5 years ago
16kadams
agreed.
Posted by polticialwiz 5 years ago
polticialwiz
I support the death penalty and will stand shoulder-shoulder with those who support the death penalty. Without the death penalty, crimes would not recieve proper justice.
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Reasons for voting decision: Mysterio is a real piece of work. What person accepts a debate challenage to only forefit the rounds Pro definitly wins
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Reasons for voting decision: i personally agree with the pro and con sort of forfeited every round.....