The Instigator
jcjamrock
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6 Points
The Contender
PoeJoe
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Winning
57 Points

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 12/27/2007 Category: Arts
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
Viewed: 1,767 times Debate No: 1069
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jcjamrock

Con

I feel like engaging in a debate is not the most meaningful way to exchange ideas and come to meaningful conclusions about the questions that bring about debate. I really would like to see forums develop.
PoeJoe

Pro

You're argument was quite vague in the way that the audience does not know exactly what you mean. In the next round, I'd love to hear to you elaborate exactly what you mean. However, for my turn right now, I'll assume you meant, "Forums are better than debates because of more understanding".

I however, think this is false for a list of reasons.

1) Forums tend to invite spam, and people who don't really want to discuss the topics at hand. Having a one-on-one debate sets up conditions where both opponents are forced to address each other or lose. In a forum, if one says something stupid, they are drowned out and forgotten. However, with the debate format, it is blatantly obvious.

2) Debates encourage new ideas to be thought. Most instigators have a pretty good idea of what they want to discuss, already prepared for normal arguments. However, in a debate format, unveiling a completely new argument leaves the other opponent in a struggle. A debate format encourages better arguments. This is not so with forums.

3) Debates encourage people to check back. Often times in forums, you are not the sole leader, taking charge for your cause, and thus don't feel motivated to check back on your thread. However, in the debate format, if you don't check back, you'll lose! And it's true, there is a minority of debates where one of the opponents goes away, but it's very minimal to what happens in forums.

4) The format of a forum is not as readable to an audience. You'll see one user taking on another user, while at the same time in the same thread, three users are taking on another user, who is also taking on another user. Needless to say it can get confusing. However, a debate format, like the one we have now, is extremely easy to read. Someone who has never seen the site before can easily figure out that this is debate site where the pro and con take turns.
Debate Round No. 1
jcjamrock

Con

jcjamrock forfeited this round.
PoeJoe

Pro

This round wasn't forfeited because the debater did post their argument within the allotted time. We'll see if my opponent comes up with something next turn.
Debate Round No. 2
jcjamrock

Con

jcjamrock forfeited this round.
PoeJoe

Pro

These were my four main arguments:

1) Forums tend to invite spam, and people who don't really want to discuss the topics at hand. Having a one-on-one debate sets up conditions where both opponents are forced to address each other or lose. In a forum, if one says something stupid, they are drowned out and forgotten. However, with the debate format, it is blatantly obvious.

2) Debates encourage new ideas to be thought. Most instigators have a pretty good idea of what they want to discuss, already prepared for normal arguments. However, in a debate format, unveiling a completely new argument leaves the other opponent in a struggle. A debate format encourages better arguments. This is not so with forums.

3) Debates encourage people to check back. Often times in forums, you are not the sole leader, taking charge for your cause, and thus don't feel motivated to check back on your thread. However, in the debate format, if you don't check back, you'll lose! And it's true, there is a minority of debates where one of the opponents goes away, but it's very minimal to what happens in forums.

4) The format of a forum is not as readable to an audience. You'll see one user taking on another user, while at the same time in the same thread, three users are taking on another user, who is also taking on another user. Needless to say it can get confusing. However, a debate format, like the one we have now, is extremely easy to read. Someone who has never seen the site before can easily figure out that this is debate site where the pro and con take turns.

And my opponent didn't even make an argument. Just a very unclear thesis. Voters, decide.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Thoreau 9 years ago
Thoreau
"However, in the debate format, if you don't check back, you'll lose!"

And... the next round was forfeited. Irony, anyone?
Posted by Harlan 9 years ago
Harlan
forums are great...and I am looking foward to future possible forums...but individual ideas can often get lost in a forum...and it is not as official...possibly a good thing...they both have their advantages
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