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italia4356
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mongeese
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Debate.org is part of the propagand machine because Ron Paul is not an option on this site.

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Started: 5/16/2009 Category: Politics
Updated: 8 years ago Status: Voting Period
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italia4356

Pro

My hypothesis is that Debate.Org is part of the Proganda Machine.

Reasons:
1. Today what sparked me to open this debate up was when I was updated my profile. I came across Presidental Candidate preference, where a long list of people came up. But to my shocking surprise, the republican Presidental Candidate for the 2008 elections who made it to the last three was not on the option list. That Presidental candidate who recieved more donations from active and un active military, recieved the most money from donations durring campianing in the history of the United States, and who got more the a million votes. That man was Dr. Ron Paul!

2. I already had suspicions of Debate.org previous to learning of the blatent bias and misleading, proganda they showed by not have Dr. Ron Paul as an option. My suspicions arose from the advertising shown on this site. I feel like I am in fox news when I come to this site. As I type this ann coulture is looking dead at me from atop the computer screen on the page.

Conclusion
Why would debate.org have a huge list of people on the choice list for presidental candidate that had not achieved a fart worth of Dr. Ron Paul accomplishments. Why would those less accomplished people be on the list of options and then NOT have Dr. Ron Paul? He made it to the last three republican candidates. Is debate.org helping those who are afraid of Dr. Ron Paul because he has lit the match to the brush pile of pain, frustration, theft, and abuse that the American people have built up from their pirate government. Are they afaid that he will start the revolution, well they should be becuase he already had and it cannot be stopped now, it can only grow until good is brought back.
mongeese

Con

"My hypothesis is that Debate.Org is part of the Proganda Machine."
Proganda... propagand... I'm going to guess that you mean the word "propaganda?"
"Propaganda machine" lacks a page on Wikipedia, nor does the phrase have a definition.
Propaganda - the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person (http://www.merriam-webster.com...)
Machine - a constructed thing whether material or immaterial (I don't feel like arguing semantics) (http://www.merriam-webster.com...)

So, you think that Debate.org is part of a constructed spreading of ideas for the purpose of injuring Ron Paul?

Most of what you say is irrelevant.

"Why would debate.org have a huge list of people on the choice list for presidential candidate that had not achieved a fart worth of Dr. Ron Paul accomplishments[?]"
http://www.politics1.com...
Dr. Ron Paul had already been eliminated from the presidential campaign when he lost to John McCain. Thus, his name doesn't appear on the ballot. Because it was pretty much impossible for Ron Paul to win when the list was updated, Ron Paul didn't appear. All of the Republicans had already chosen McCain.

"Why would those less accomplished people be on the list of options and then NOT have Dr. Ron Paul? He made it to the last three republican candidates."
Exactly. They were part of their own miniature parties. Dr. Ron Paul decided to gamble in trying to represent the Republican Party, one of the two major parties in the United States. He lost to John McCain, so John McCain represented the Republican Party, and Ron Paul quit his campaign.
http://en.wikipedia.org...
"On June 12, 2008, Paul officially withdrew his bid for the Republican nomination, citing his resources could be better spent on improving America."
See? He officially quit the election, so he was no longer a valid election choice, so it would be a waste of time to ask debaters if they supported John Paul, when he was no longer an official candidate. Debate.org was balanced in that only one choice was given to each political party, and the Republican slot was already filled.

"Are they afaid that he will start the revolution, well they should be becuase he already had and it cannot be stopped now, it can only grow until good is brought back."
He quit. End of story.

So, it is obvious that this debate goes to CON. If you have any questions about what I said, ask in Round 2.
Debate Round No. 1
italia4356

Pro

Mongeese, your comming off a little hostile but I guess that is ok because I came out a little hostile at debate.org. You debate very well. But a person on the comment page already told me pretty much what you just said and so I realized that I was wrong and if you read my comment I apoligize to debate.org. So, sorry for the mistake. And his name is not John Paul it is Ron Paul. Gotcha! Probably didn't spell that right, sorry again. This debate is dismissed. Soo solly.
mongeese

Con

Alright then, I guess this debate is... over.
Debate Round No. 2
italia4356

Pro

italia4356 forfeited this round.
mongeese

Con

All arguments extended.

Vote CON.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by s0m31john 8 years ago
s0m31john
Ron Paul 2010!
Posted by wjmelements 8 years ago
wjmelements
GRAMMAR: "And his name is not John Paul it is Ron Paul." CON
CONDUCT: "italia4356 forfeited this round." CON
ARGUMENTS: "I realized that I was wrong" CON
SOURCES: http://www.politics1.com... CON

Easy vote.
Posted by mongeese 8 years ago
mongeese
This debate... is tied...

This world doesn't make any sense.
Posted by sherlockmethod 8 years ago
sherlockmethod
Why can't the pro position concede and let the debate be done, with a win for mongeese? The Pro apologized and recognized his error, well done for saying so, Sir, as admitting a wrong shows honesty that I respect. We need a concede button allowing an automatic win for the opposing position.
Posted by italia4356 8 years ago
italia4356
You know what Volkov, you are absolutely right. So, I just reviewed the options again and I found that what Volkov is saying is exactly right. So, I now apoligize to Debate.org for my jumping to conclusions and my sillyness. I still don't care much for the fox news decorating. Thank you Volkov. And to this mongeese this case has been dismissed. Sorry for the mistake. I still want to debate though, I'll thinki of someting else to twist someones brain.
Posted by Volkov 8 years ago
Volkov
But, Ron Paul *wasn't* a presidential candidate. The people listed are ones who had their names on ballots during the eleection.
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