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jakeG
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The Contender
philochristos
Con (against)
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Debates here are too formal

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philochristos
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 11/7/2012 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 4 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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jakeG

Pro

Debates on debate.org are too formal. Sometimes I feel people listen to grammar and big words more than the actual reason they have in their debates. I like how everyone is polite but sometimes the constant thank you's and your welcome's seems fake. Im not debating this to win but to hopefully understand why this happens. As of now I have no reason why people do this so if anyone can argue with me, great.
philochristos

Con

I do not agree that debates on debate.org are too formal. These are, after all, formal debates. They're designed to be formal debates. That's why they have a set number of rounds, word limits, and criteria for judging. These debates are supposed to be formal.

I do not think it's true that people pay more attention to grammar and "big words" than to the actual reasons they have in the debate. The voting section accounts for both of those criteria, and the points are weighted in such a way as to give more importance to arguments. While spelling and grammar are factors in the voting process, they are not bigger factors than the arguments.

It may be true that a lot of the "thank yous" and "your welcomes" are fake, but many of them are sincere. As for myself, I appreciate a good well-thought out argument as opposed to an angry diatribe. I appreciate a challenge. And I appreciate good manners. I do not appreciate condescension, snarkiness, and rudeness. So I let people know when they are appreciated. But even in the case of fake "thank yous" and "your welcomes," if you think about it, good manners often does require hiding your true feelings. As Greg Koukl once said, "The difference between doing what comes naturally and principled self-restraint is called civilization."[1] Saying "thank you" and "your welcome" to people with whom you have deep disagreement is just good manners.



[1] Koukl, Greg, Tactics in Defending the Faith, p. 150


Debate Round No. 1
jakeG

Pro

I think you are right. You win
philochristos

Con

Thank you for coming to tonight's debate. :-)
Debate Round No. 2
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Vote Placed by Bordenkircher 4 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: I feel as if pro just wants to argue without any well-developed claims. Not only that, but he gave up.
Vote Placed by RationalMadman 4 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: 1 point to pro for making me piss myself laughing at his round two debate... Random but whatever. Con was very well argued.
Vote Placed by Zaradi 4 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Duhh.....I 'unno who won.
Vote Placed by AlwaysMoreThanYou 4 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Well, Pro kind of gave up in Round 2, so who am I supposed to vote for?
Vote Placed by Nur-Ab-Sal 4 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Concession by Pro secures Con's victory.