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Demetrius Johnson could win the UFC Heavyweight title

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Started: 2/26/2015 Category: Sports
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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heyyouguys

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Cain Velasquez is a great fighter, but, like most of the heavyweights, is another slow, lumbering giant.
If he were ever to strike DJ, he'd crush him.
Still, think of it: very few small, quick fighters can keep up with DJ; Cain could never catch him. It would be like Rocky and the chicken. That leaves DJ to stealthily score just one point in 25 minutes and you'll have a 125 lb. UFC Heavyweight of the world!
briantheponderer

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No way. Maybe if the heavyweight champion were still Tim Sylvia he would stand a chance, but not against Cain.

Cain is actually pretty quick for a heavyweight, and he has great cardio.

If Cain ever got even the slightest hold on DJ, which he definitely would in 25 mins, he would take him down easily and crush him with ground and pound.
Debate Round No. 1
heyyouguys

Pro

Again, the visual of Rocky chasing the chicken illustrates my point well. DJ is much larger than a chicken, but the size difference is matched from Sylvester Stallone to Cain Valasquez, and that leaves Demetrius to land only one strike.
Add the factor of how grossly underpaid the flyweights are, how much attention such a spectacle would draw for Dana White, and DJ'S added concern against being struck by, or grappling with Cain, and he'd be even more incentivized than ever.
This isn't an insult to Cain. Very few of the lumbering giants could do better: maybe Brock Lesnar.
briantheponderer

Con

I think you're forgetting that in UFC you get points for aggression and octagon control as well, which in this scenario Cain, even if he couldn't catch DJ, would be racking up. If DJ tried to hit Cain enough to cancel these points out, then Cain would catch him for sure.
Debate Round No. 2
heyyouguys

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By round 3, Cain would be so exhausted that DJ would be done with the Rocky/chicken strategy, and would be fully into badger v cobra strategy. DJ's points would be insurmountable. See https://m.youtube.com...
I like Cain, I appreciate the heart he brings, but it would be like the Flash v a sumo wrestler; such fights end with the demise of the heaviest.
See https://m.youtube.com...
briantheponderer

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Why would Cain get exhausted? Cain never gets exhausted, even when he's grappling with and getting punched by giant heavyweights for 25 minutes. This being the case, how could standing in the centre of the Octagon, waiting for a jittery little guy to try to attack him, possibly exhaust him?
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by heyyouguys 2 years ago
heyyouguys
I should have used the example of 5'3" Muggy Bogus in the NBA for 14 years. Part of his phenomenon was his ability, part was the predictability of big people.
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