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Mikal
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imsmarterthanyou98
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Design a Game

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Mikal
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 1/27/2014 Category: Games
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Mikal

Pro

In this debate, we are going to design a game and compare it against the other ones.

Round 1 of the debate will start with Con's name of the game and the initial idea of the story.

Round 2 for me I shall do the same as Con. Give my name of the game , and the initial idea of the story,

Round 2 for Con is introducing characters in the game and how they fit into the story. Descriptions of them, abilities , etc

Round 3 for me shall be the same as 2 for Con

Round 3 for Con is typing "no round as agreed upon"

Failure to type this will result in a full loss of 7 point, due to him having an extra round. FFs shall result in loss of conduct, where multiple ffs could result in a full 7 point concession. This is at the discretion of the voters. 10k character limit, 3 day respond time is the restrictions.
imsmarterthanyou98

Con

The basic idea idea: A Video game where the protagonist is a spirit possessing and controlling people.

Basically, it's as follows: You can possess other people, and you immediately can use any of their abilities/powers (that is, possess a soldier and you'll use their weapons, possess an old lady and you'll have to walk slowly).

The objective of the game is to cause as much suffering and kill as many people as possible you can only win the game once you kill everyone on earth.

However you can only spend so much time controlling the same person until they start to struggle and fight back. They eventually kill themselves, leaving you without a body, and you can only survive a short amount of time without being inside someone. As the game progress you will have a chance to posses important people such as the president of the unitedstates for example.

Your enemies will know about you and your powers, so you will have to act as the person you are controlling so the rest of the people don't know that he's possessed thus you will attempt to play his or her role in life for a short while.

Debate Round No. 1
Mikal

Pro





Year 2144

Earth has been depleting all of his natural resources drastically. Oil and food are scarce. Approximately in the year 2095 an outbreak occurred that ran rampant. This is not a virus like we read about in books, nor watched in movies. This virus makes people go crazy. They lose all control, will, and even knowledge of who they once were. They are indeed unintelligent, when you see one there is only one word that comes to mind "bloodlust". They want to kill with their bare hands. All of the shows and books about the dead coming back to life was a joke, to think our biggest threat is our family and loved ones. They are not slow, and they are not mute. They are loud, fast, and agile. As far as we know they are incapable of climbing or swimming, and most stop if they lose the line of sight of their pray. Some have been known to be different. They evolve, smell, and hunt. We call these Evo's. They have heightened senses and abilities and are much harder to kill. The cause of the virus is known, but how it spreads is common knowledge. It is spread by blood. Often bites can cause the infection, even scratches. The main cause however is the blood that is in the ground and water. It has to be purified before being drank. Water can be boiled, and plants can be vaccinated. The spread through food and water was wet let the world to ruin. Nearly all major cities and countries have fallen. A few strongholds remain in the world and those are where humanity is attempting to make its last stand. By last stand I do not mean a massacre or fight to the death. We are fighting and studying these creatures on a day to day basis. We are gaining knowledge about how to kill them faster and quicker, and how to keep them out of cities and strongholds. In addition to that the space exploration program has began to boom. Due to no resources being used world wide we can funnel all the power to the strongholds in a attempt to advance in spacial explorations. We have vessels sent on a day to day basis exploring and trying to find a new planet for humanity to rebuild on. One such planet was found. It was called Eion. This planet bears drastic similarities to earth and is found in the lunar system 3 clicks away from our own galaxy. Tests have shown we can breathe the air without hard and the planet is flourishing with wildlife. We have sent some settlers there in a attempt to colonize the planet. More go there on a daily basis, while others are trying to fortify earth. This often leads to disputes in the Word Council. Oh you probably are wondering what the World council is. Let me first explain the major strongholds left on earth.


Manhattan

This is the main point of operations in the USA. An island surrounded by water with virtually no way for the infected to get in. When the initial outbreak occurred people in the city though ahead and blew up all the bridges and tunnels leading to the city and sealed them off completely. The only way to enter the city now is by air or boat. A giant wall was constructed around the island to keep any rare infected out. Check points are ran at the port and air base to see if people who come in have been infected. Sad to say if they show up infected, they are turned away promptly. The government does not kill them, but turns them back into the outskirts. This is also the primary point of the spacial exploration program. The main base is at the center of the city near the Presidential Plaza. That's right you probably didn't know we still had a president. By reading all of this you probably assumed that the government collapsed. Turns out republicans were wrong, less government is not for the better. There is one president and he makes the calls along with his council. Granted it is still a democracy due to the council , but bigger government has always proven to keep people in line. It is working well. I met him myself once. He was was a army officer who made the call to let his squad die in a fight to save the city. He used them as bait without their knowledge and let them to their death. His choice saved an entire city. Because of the diversion, evacuation attempts went threw and 90 percent of the city was saved. He is a quiet fellow, but very lethal. He did not earn the title of president by birth earth, he earned it with blood. He stays at his house in the center of the presidential plaza and is often leading up efforts to try and fortify new strongholds on earth. He does opposite the idea of spacial exploration but does not adore it either. Him and the head of NASA often bump heads.

Tokyo

Go leave it to the Japanese to fortify a city like no other. You think Manhattan sounds ruff, it is cookies and cake compared to Tokyo. This is a city that does not play. An infected has never breached the city perimeter. They also constructed a wall, but decided to align it with uncountable defense. Turrets, fences further out from the gate, spikes, an oil fields are all outside of Tokyo. Every time a mass horde has tried to make it to the city, they have been obliterated. It was more common at the start of the outbreak but it is almost like the infected have learned to stop. Tokyo use to receive waves by the thousands. After a while it stopped. They have rotating guard posts on the tower at all times. They also have a president. Well actually am emperor, and he is far more fierce than ours. Anyone that is infected receives the order to be slain on the spot. The emperors own daughter was infected and he ran a sword threw her eye and then buried her himself. He is cold and lethal. He is a respectable man but puts protection of his people above all else.


The Vatican

Go figure the last stronghold belongs to the Church and the pope. They have turned back into the religious nutjobs they once were. People who try to protect infected or pray for cures, are slain on the spot. The new pope is young and violent. He hates the infection more than anything. Orders are given to search the stronghold daily for anyone trying to justify the infection. Fear is widespread and most of the people who live here are either controlled by it, agree with it, or are to scared to stand up against it. The Vatican is unlike the other strong holds. Dirt, rocks, and mounds were built around the city and overtime made a peninsula around the Vatican. It is at the bottle of a big bowl. At the top is also a wall that circles the entire bowl and along the way down there are spikes and landmines, if the wall were to breached. At the bottom the Vatican stands with another huge wall along its outskirts. It is well fortified and very kept.

Think about that. You have the US president, the Leader of Japan, and the Pope as the authority of the world. Usually it is decided by a majority vote and bi partisan ship is not an issue. All 3 of these people do not like each other all for various reasons. They are allies against their own will. Some fear it will breed World War 4. After what happened with Russia and China in World War 3 no one wants to see another one. The one thing that is a fact is that we have to find a way to stop this virus. By either leaving this virus on this planet, or trying to find a way to eliminate at its source. We have no idea where to begin or how to stop this threat entirely, but we will find a way and we will win.


Commander Avery James of the Special Task Forces of Manhattan personal log.

July 21, 2044 Monday 8:35 PM
imsmarterthanyou98

Con

This game will utilize the new oculus rift 2 Virtual Reality Headset for 3D Gaming.

You play as Grant an evil scientist in the year 2144 that is the first to invent a machine that transports your consciousness into an invisible sprit with the capabilities of taking over other minds.

The game is fairly simple. It’s an open world sandbox game in which the most people you kill the more points you gather up you are able to win the game if you can kill everyone on earth.

You start off in New York City the first body you are granted control over is that of a bus driver. You can for example drive the bus off a cliff killing everyone inside but also leaving you without a body.

You cannot survive without a body for more than 5 minutes. At first you will only be allowed to control a person for a brief amount of time. You feed off your score which is how many people you kill. The more amount of people you are able to kill the more amount of time you will be allowed to stay within a body. There is also a cool down between each control of 30 sec.

However you have enemies as well. The government is well aware of you and what you have done. When you are controlling someone there is a slide side effect. The person’s eyes become black.

Therefore the police has been warned to be on the lookout for anyone with pitch black eyes.

The police will take you and kick you which kicks you out of the person you are controlling. Leaving you without a body.

As the game progresses you will be granted opportunities to take over a fighter pilot for example and kill many people.

This game will use the oculus rift 2 and will also contain extremely realistic graphics and gore.

This was really fun thanks Pro :)

Debate Round No. 2
Mikal

Pro

Characters

Avery James

A commander in the special Task force in Manhattan. Ever since he was a child, avery was drawn to fighting. He was always drawn to protect people and was often suspended in schooling for beating up people whom bullied others. When they infection first hit, he enlisted in the military and did a lot of supply runs. He stood guard on the main bridges of the city to make sure no infected could get in while the wall was being built. A giant horde was approaching the city, and Avery took it upon himself to blow up both the bridge and tunnels below the city ceiling off all entry points other than air and water. Everyone was furious until the realized what a brilliant move it was. It saved them from the horde, and James was later promoted to commander in the Task force. Averys favorite weapon is a medium length straight sword, and pistol

Zane

No one knows his last name, they just call him Zane. He is an expert in hand to hand combat and often adorns gauntlets with spikes on the end. He takes orders from no one, and is often seen wandering around the outskirts outside the wall. He is an elite mercenary and for the right price, he will almost take any challenge. Before the wall was up, Zane always did street fighting. He payed his bills this way. He would enter tournaments and win most of them, earning him a valuable reputation in the under ground.

Austin Scott

This is the president of Manhattan. Austin was a officer in the army and was taking on a supply mission in the small town of ereguia. The town was still occupied by a great many people. Midway through the run a horde was trying to make its way into the city. Austins own personal squad went after the horde to try and stop them. They were overrun and it forced Austin into making a call was ruthless. He had to choose between letting his squad die, or saving the people in the town. He made the choice and watched his squad die in front of him. This gave enough time for the town to evacuate and the citizens to make it to Manhattan. After this he was later offered the role of president. People though his innate ability to make hard choices, was the kind of leader they needed. Austin carrys around 2 sawed off double barrel shotguns. He also has a schimtiar on his waste for close range situations.

Crystal Lee

A scientist in the arm and a brilliant mind. She is often working on new ways to try and stop the infected. She has been currently trying to find a great weakness they can use against them. She is undergoing missions on the outside of the wall all of the time. She loves taking samples and is practically fearless. Some call it stupid not fearless though. She has some kind of drive, that makes her think the infected can be cured and are still living people. She hates blood shed. Her weapon of choice is a laser pistol. She can set it for stun or kill according to the situation.

Yomo Gaun

This under sized little human is a feisty and crazy individual. Often rude and very loud, he is not scared to say what is on his mind. He was working under Crystal as a bodyguard in the military special forces, but was later removed when he could not control his mouth. He often made comments about her chest in which he was politley asked to stop. HE only responded "Can't I simply enjoy the view". He was later discharged doing work for the armory of the city. He is a master junksman and can build almost anything from nothing. He likes to carry around a giant hammer with a spike on the end of it.
imsmarterthanyou98

Con

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Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by donald.keller 3 years ago
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Why isn't everyone giving Mikal grammer? His was way better.

And I agree Sagey
Posted by Sagey 3 years ago
Sagey
Brain hurts trying to understand Pro's game, I've only a little simple brain.
Posted by MysticEgg 3 years ago
MysticEgg
Any game? Board, video, usw...?
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Reasons for voting decision: Conduct was fine. Spelling and grammar weren't the best, but that hardly matters in this scenario. I'll keep this tied. Arguments: A clear win for Pro. Pro seemed to be taking a cliche idea head on and turning it into an original piece of work. I liked the idea of the Vatican, too, as religion and certain other issues are often left out of games, with only one or a few characters ever talking about it. Con, on the other hand, was taking the possession aspect from Bioshock: Infinite and warping it into a game! Don't get me wrong, this is a good thing, but I don't think it paid off when compared to Pro's more developed storyline.
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Reasons for voting decision: PRO's was obviously more well developed, articulated, presented and appealing. It's not so much that CON's didn't have potential, but rather that CON's ideas were less than sufficiently developed, and weren't as appealing. Because spelling and grammar could also be applied to formatting, generally. that's going to have to go to pro. Because PRO's depth of thought was far more extensive than CON's, and that could only be because he sourced that from a more creative brain, I'm going to have to give source points to PRO. And because PRO generally put forward more effort, I'm similarly going to have to give conduct to PRO.
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Reasons for voting decision: Both parties tied on conduct, no major breaches. My points go to pro. Pro had much more development as far as the concept and plot of the game characters were in depth. I felt like con focused too much on the game mechanics than player engagement.
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Reasons for voting decision: I'll give args to Pro, Con had good ideas, but they seemed repetitive and simple, for instance the demon possessing game IS a really cool idea, but would be repetitive with seemingly no end goal. And more fantasy oriented. I like simulation games, an when a game (say pirates) tries to closely replicate those, it makes for a fantastic collision of intellectualism and senses. I felt that Pro's ideas try to do that more, and as such I give him args. Even though the actual situations are a little fetched, the end goal of world domination for instance gives me more direction, something to work for, and can replicate similar real world simulations if really desired. Interesting debate though
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Reasons for voting decision: I felt like Pro's story line was too common. Con's was more unique. I liked the general sound of Con's game, which seems unique and new. The gameplay to Con's game also seemed pretty fun. As for spelling, Con had more mistakes per line of text.
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro's Game seems too complex for me, too many contradictions, Con's is more simplistic and his sounds a little like the Virus in Pro's game. I think I'd rather play Con's. Brain hurts trying to understand Pro's.
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Reasons for voting decision: Con's game was easier to understand.