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Destiny: Thorn vs The Last Word

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Started: 11/9/2015 Category: Games
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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MeargleSchmeargle

Pro

)In this debate I will be arguing that the exotic hand cannon Thorn is better than the exotic hand cannon The Last Word in the game known as Destiny by Bungie.

Rules:
No forfeit
You must play destiny and know what these weapons are to participate
round one is acceptance
round 2 is opening statements ONLY
round 3 is rebuttals
round 4 is closing statements ONLY.
Lastly, have fun!
Retributionist

Con

Hey there! :D

Well, for starters, let's compare the Stats of the Exotic Hand Cannon Thorn and the Exotic Hand Cannon The Last Word.

~Stats~

Exotic Hand Cannon Thorn vs Exotic Hand Cannon the Last Word

In terms of Damage. (155 - 170 < 280)

In terms of Impact. (68 - 71 < 68 - 72)

In terms of Range. (32 - 59, 2 - 8)

In terms of Zoom. (15 - 15)

In terms of Aim. (45 - 60 > 15 - 40)

In terms of Stability. (29 - 60 > 12 - 53)

In terms of Recoil. (80 - 100 < 100 - 120)

In terms of Equip Speed. (15-30 > 15 - 20)

In terms of Magazine. (9 < 8)

In terms of Rate of Fire. (32 - 32)

In terms of Fire Mode. (Single - Single)

In terms of Reload. (43 - 56)

In terms of Quality. (70 - 0)

In terms of Tier. (6 - 6)

Both weapons rival each other, taking the spot of the top most overpowered weapons in Destiny.

The Last Word beats Thorn in terms of Damage and Impact. It rivals Thorn in terms of Tier, Rate of Fire and Zoom. Note that it is a Shotgun, yet it has the same Rate of Fire as a Revolver.

Sure, Thorn has better Range and stuff, but that means more Aim Assists, which are, technically, bad, making you miss shots.

Link:
https://www.reddit.com...

Designer Jon Weisnewski also admits that Shotguns are the most OP weapons in Destiny.

Technically too, Thorn isn't that OP anymore.

It's not exactly easy to get a 2-3 hit on your target jumping and running around.

It's not really OP anymore, if you know how to play against it. Keep out of medium range, get too close or far enough away that they can't get a good lock on you.

Guess what, Shotguns work best at close range. "get too close or far enough away that they can't get a good lock on you." :)

Thorn is also getting further nerfed.

Now, The Last Word.

The Last Word would almost certainly destroy Thorn in a 1v1 situation online, as admitted by many people. It can fire extremely quickly (as taken from the stats) although it is a Shotgun. One of a kind, eh? It fires faster than a Revolver.

Link:
https://www.gfinity.net...

Thorn has too much Range, meaning it has better Aim Assist. (which sucks)

Link:
https://www.bungie.net...

There are many ways to evade it, if you are experienced enough.

Link:
https://www.bungie.net...

And thus, I declare that The Last Word is better than Thorn.

Sources:
https://www.bungie.net...
http://destiny.wikia.com...
http://destiny.wikia.com...
https://www.bungie.net...
https://www.reddit.com...
https://www.gfinity.net...
http://www.tradeindetectives.com...
Debate Round No. 1
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Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by ZacGraphics 1 year ago
ZacGraphics
I guess Pro could make his starting arguement free of rebuttals, and Con may just copy and paste his first statement, and then move on to rebuttals in the next round.

I'm super glad to see a Destiny debate, escpecially against Thorn and Last Word. Back in Year 1, I rocked TLW and Sniper combo. Sadly though, Hawkmoon has seemed to rise above TLW and Thorn in Year 2.

Good luck to both sides!
Posted by Retributionist 1 year ago
Retributionist
Oops I didn't read the rules. Sorry. :P
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