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mall
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The Contender
DimensionKC
Con (against)
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Deviance:Homosexuality, pedophilia, bestiality, incest all fit into this one category

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mall
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 5/11/2016 Category: People
Updated: 9 months ago Status: Post Voting Period
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mall

Pro

Deviance:Homosexuality, pedophilia, bestiality, incest all fit into this one category. As it has been apart of a lot of controversy, all of these deviances all lumped together. It has been argued that the laws of same sex marriage being passed opens the flood gates, opens pandor's box to all the other forms of incorrectness. Not only will rights be supported for homosexuals in terms of marriage ,etc., but other groups and forms of relationships will be protesting for the same. Claims have already been put forth, that bestiality and the law of marriage between a person and a animal(non-person)has been passed in other nations. The basic premise is that the criteria for romantic, sexual relationships/married couples has dwindled . Once all meaning in particular standards have been cut, there really is no direction for what constitutes or defines something. The rules and criteria are very important for us to separate one thing from another. They help us to stay on track, on objective , on the right way to go so the focus is never lost in which direction we were going in. Everything has an exclusive purpose(s) and once that's tampered with to make it fit some other kind of fashion there's a total breakdown. Please step forward, anyone that see's different, thinks different. Make a case.
DimensionKC

Con

Now in order for me to properly explain my argument, we need to talk about social constructs. What you are arguing in favor for is the social construct that can make anything fit into any category. Deviance is a category developed by social constructs on what the society thinks is deviant or not. Outside of our human brains, social constructs do not exist and we are nothing. Your monitor is a social construct. This website is a social construct. I am a social construct. And YOU are a social construct. Homosexuality is also a social construct, so we must treat it as such that it does not get wrongly placed in categories with chicken or broccoli, because that's what humans will do. They will use myths to their advantage. However, we know nothing. Outside our conscious there is nothing.

Also, I declare breathing a deviance, because breathing is also a social construct.
Debate Round No. 1
mall

Pro

So this is just to get a correct understanding to what was submitted in the previous argument . Was that argument illustrating that everything is a social construct and that nothing has a solid foundation? Which would mean nothing truly has a criteria or standard other than what people measure it to be . There's no basis for right or wrong, correct or incorrect , deviation or conformation outside of our 5 senses or whatever how many we possibly possess. Everything is subjective and constructed inside of our consciousness and there's no way to verify outside of that because outside of that we will have no consciousness . We would have no interpretation , experience and or knowledge . We are only as real as we think we are and whatever reality we continue to create within the mind and what it's exposed to. So that would mean my correct understanding wouldn't even truly be a correct understanding . It's all fabricated , isn't that right? One thing is how does one know for sure? How does one know that this realm , space , existence , material composition detected by the consciousness isn't actually a universe govererned fundamentally with principles ? A particular order we must follow to continue to dwell and remain in this consciousness . A set of principles put in place in a rudimentary fashion to maintain our socially constructed interactions and experiences which a lot of individual persons would refer to as being their lives. Maybe you take the stance that social construct is all there is to it which would be subjective . I believe there's more to it than social construct. Is all this the gist of what was mentioned ? In that , calculating on doing this or that is relative and compatible to whatever minds that function with the calculation guideline. The do's and don't s, laws, regulations , the categories that individuals craft are nothing more than what they happen to assemble / make up. Is that where you or "socially interpreted fabricated "you , is that the essence of the concept?
DimensionKC

Con

DimensionKC forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
mall

Pro

Well to continue on with the meaning of deviation, here's where the argument goes. For those that believe way past a social construct into right and wrong , this would be well understood. Regardless if we're living in a matrix, dreamland or illusion. There are rules that goverern the environment point blank. Those rules and criteria are set in place to give us specified results. Clearly DEVIATING from that will give different results . Here's an illustration with putting on attire or shoes . Putting on either one of these things incorrectly will be a different outcome compared to putting them on correctly . Wearing a shoe backwards and trying to walk is no avail to the foot. The foot ends up being brutalized , damaged and receives neglected care to its deduced intended function and design. Likewise with attempting to wear a buttoned up shirt backwards . Most likely the person has failed to cover their body and upper torso . So when it comes to sexuality and what has been learned of it denotes a criteria . Homosexuality is a deviation in that it counters against the design and function of the intent for heterosexuality's criteria . Pedophilia is a deviation in that it counters against the maturity and ability of two supposed able bodies appropriately for sexuality's criteria. Bestiality is a deviation in that it counters against the design and function of the intent of human heterosexual criteria. Incest is a deviation in that it counters against the design , function and outcome of health an overall welfare for the most part (meaning genetic sequences leading to deformities). All four behaviors are distinct in their subclasses but all are classified in a generic class due to the one common trait of deviance . So this is all based on rules and regulations whether be fabricated, constructed or relative . Social constructs as it were are the way they are due to the criteria they hold to qualify as such . So society is governed by that so on and so forth even making its way to the law of the land.
DimensionKC

Con

DimensionKC forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
1 comment has been posted on this debate.
Posted by mall 9 months ago
mall
Debate should have went to me . This became more of a lecture than a debate. Forfeiture of rounds should be a default to a win . Would have been better to one accepting this challenge believing in fundamental right and wrong instead of relativity.
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Reasons for voting decision: Con ff many times, so conduct to Pro.
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Reasons for voting decision: Con forfeited rounds 2 and 3 so the win automatically goes to Pro.