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BJanders96
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Did Jesus die for our sins?

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Started: 4/16/2017 Category: Religion
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Debating Period
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Debate.orgusername1

Con

Did Jesus die for our sins?, or is he immortal like his father God and there forth he is still with us today and did not die.
BJanders96

Pro

As was said in the comments, it's not just one or the other. Jesus Christ took upon himself and suffered the pains of everyone that ever has and ever will live on earth while he was in the Garden of Gethsemane. He then was tried and crucified for everyone. During this, he had the opportunity to continue living as long as he wanted, but the plan laid out by God required that there be a sacrifice. He suffered all the pains, but he had to suffer death as well. In the bible, it says that he voluntarily gave up his life. He gave up the opportunity he had here on earth and shed his mortal body, but three days later, he was reunited with his body in a process known as resurrection. He is now an immortal being of flesh and bone (flesh and blood is the typical saying, but blood is a symbol of mortality). He lives in heaven with God the Father, but has people on earth to interpret his words and be a mouthpiece, just as in the time of Moses and Abraham.

Anyway, Happy Easter everyone. Hope you have or had a great Sunday.
Debate Round No. 1
Debate.orgusername1

Con

So he didn't die and he knew it would all be ok in the end and he would go to a better place anyway, I would do it. That is how suicide bombers think as well when they sacrifice them selves.Happy and peaceful resurrection day as Easter is a term that is more associated with the Anglo Saxon pagan goddess Eostra.
BJanders96

Pro

Christ did die. His body and his spirit were separated until he later was reunited with it. There are many religions in the world that have taken the teachings of Christ and his example and twisted it into something that they wanted it to be. Those bombers come to a sad realization a few moments after detonation. Even before Christ's time, there were prophecies and teachings about what he would do. This gave people the opportunity they needed to distort the truth to meet their desires. The truth is, Christ came to earth, suffered the pains of man (this was one of two sacrifices) to the point to no ordinary person would be able endure and live. He then allowed himself to be put onto the cross and crucified. Our bodies are sacred things that allow us to experience what Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ is wanting us to experience. Without our bodies, their plans would be frustrated. This was the second sacrifice. Christ didn't want to give up this life, but he knew it was necessary for the atonement to be completed.

If you don't believe this or think this is true, then you should pray about it and listen for an answer or wait for a feeling of confirmation.
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Posted by missmedic 1 year ago
missmedic
Sin by definition is something immoral. How is punishing someone for someone else's action moral.
e.g. the children of Adam for Adam's sin and Jesus for the sins his farther gave us. Original sin is not just misguided. It is fundamentally evil. It is an inversion of morality.
Posted by kwagga_la 1 year ago
kwagga_la
@missmedic Christ had two nature's and understanding this solves many problems or apparent contradictions. As the son of man He was limited in certain respects according to the purpose of Him coming to earth as a man. As the Son of God he was still God who has authority over creation.
Posted by missmedic 1 year ago
missmedic
If Jesus is God then presumably he is omnipotent. If this is true, then when he allowed himself to be sacrificed, didn"t he do this with the knowledge that he was immortal? If so, then how exactly was it a sacrifice for him? What did he sacrifice? Two days off for an immortal being does not a death payment make.
Posted by Jonbonbon 1 year ago
Jonbonbon
The two aren't mutually exclusive. Jesus did die, but he is eternal (immortal wouldn't be the right word). But it doesn't mean Jesus ever stopped existing. His body was perfect and filled with the eternal nature of God, so when he died in place for our sins, God's wrath could be fulfilled on himself for the sake of anyone who loved him.
Posted by philochristos 1 year ago
philochristos
If your intention is not to debate a resolution, but to try to understand what it means to say "Jesus died for sins," you could go to the religion discussion forum and post your question there.
Posted by Debate.orgusername1 1 year ago
Debate.orgusername1
I am the creator of this debate, I am neither pro or con words it. My reason for posting this is just trying to understand the phrase Jesus died for our sins,from what I understand he is immortal and has always been immortal.
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