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Did the American Invasion of Iraq make the nation of Iraq better in the End?

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Started: 9/30/2016 Category: Politics
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First, I'd like to clarify that this debate isn't about the Bush administration's justifications for the Iraq War (those being revenge for 9/11 and the prevention of another terrorist attack like 9/11 with supposed Weapons of Mass Destruction which were found only in extremely limited quantities) . I'm focusing more on the consequences of the invasion in regards to the Iraqi people. Second, I'm not too familiar with the etiquette of a proper debate, so, while I encourage my opponent to remain professional and serious, it's cool if we don't observe proper etiquette throughout the course of the arguemnt.
I believe that the American invasion of Iraq was ultimately good for the Iraqi people for a number of reasons.
First, Saddam Hussein had shown aggressive tendencies, most notably the illegall invasion of Kuwait in 1990, which ended in 1991 with American intervention, and the intiation of the Iran-Iraq War, a conflict which accomplished nothing for either side and resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of soldiers and many more civilians. Iraq and Iran both committed a number of war crimes during the conflict, including the afforementioned Iraqi employment of chemical weapons and the use of anti-aircraft guns to cut down waves of infantry. The American invasion, which did result in the deaths of many Iraqi civilians, removed a major threat to the security of US allies such as Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Israel.
Second, Sadddam Hussein, the dictator that had been running the country since July of 1979, committed unspeakable horrors against the people of his country. These included the mass execution of political rivals in the 1974 Dawa Killings; the 1983 Barzani Abductions, resulting in the disappearence of thousands of Iraqi men; the mass use of chemical weapons against both enemies and his own Kurds alike; the devastation of marshes in which 250,000 people lived, resulting in the mass destruction of their homes and property and mass exile and death from the area; the assassination of the Shi'a Ayatollah Muhammed al-Sadr as part of a brutal crackdown on rebellion which resulted in the deaths of hundreds in 1999; and the crackdown of Kurd and Shi'a rebellions in 1991. Saddam Hussein was a threat to his own people, and the Iraqi people had no say in changing his policies as protest and political dissent was crushed and any rebellion was destroyed by the military, eliminating the option of the poeple to take matters into their own hands. Only a foreign invasion could have taken Saddam down.
The American invasion solved both of these problems. Without the invasion, the Iraqi people would've never had the amount of control over their government as they do not, and the invasion brought basic human rights such as freedom of speech to the Iraqi people. While it is true that the American invasion brought the deaths of many Iraqi civilians, the nation is and will be spared from the abuses of a tyrannical, untouchable dictator as long as American-brought democracy persists. And, while ISIS does pose an immediate threat to the stability of the region, and it could be argued that ISIS was a result of the US invasion, the Iraqi government along with the support of a US-led coalition has made great progress against the Islamic State, killing tens of thousands of their insurgents, pushing back their territory, and denying them control of much of the oil that funds their operations. With the threat of the Islamic State removed, Iraq has the potential to rise to become a stable democracy-- a far cry from the nation's suffering under Saddam Hussien before the American invasion.


Thank you for the chance to debate my side of this here, we will keep things civil for sure my friend. As a historian you can see that opinions change throughout time. What was once justified is looked back upon with disgust and visa versa. The invasion or Iraq is one such topic. I assert that the invasion or Iraq not only greatly harmed the people of Iraq but harmed the entire Middle East as well. I assert this for 2 main reasons.

1. It lead to ISIS: When the conventional Iraqi army was largely defeated and the Iraqi government removed from power we saw a massive mishandling of the situation. We illegalized the Baath party overnight essentially. If you were a member of the Baath party you could hold no government position, including in the military, ever again. Now if you wanted to be a commander or officer in the army or hold any position of merit you had to be in the ruling party. So when this law took effect the entire military was fired for the most party including all officers and senior commanders. No pension, no healthcare, no respect. Just jobless, powerless, trained killers. These displaced soldiers make up the ISIS we are fighting today. As a direct result of ISIS actions, multiple acts of terror have occurred and Iraq is in the throws of a bloody civil war. This has heavily effected Iraq's ability to recover economically, politically, and socially.
2. During the war it is estimated that 500,000 people died. Even if there was a massive improvement in standards of living, it came at a very high cost. And now, looking at if from 2016- These 500,000 people died and the only lasting effect of it was ISIS's creation.

Sadam was not a good man, but he was a middling leader. Under Sadam ISIS would have never come to power and the region would remain at least somewhat stable. Directly due to our invasion the largest Terrorist organization ever has been created and now threatens to overthrow the entire region. ISIS is far more brutal than Sadam ever was

Let's also examine one key factor about Democracy. Democracy is a great thing but it is far from perfect. Democratic governments are slow moving and ineffective. There are advantages too don't get me wrong, but in a region where you boarder enemies and deal with terrorist organizations daily an effective and efficient government is needed. If invaded you need to be able to respond immediately, which is why you see an excess of Kings and Dictators in the middle east. The truth is that democracy is not the only answer to the complex question of governing. We have democracies fail because people did not ask for them and they did not fit with a given culture or region. A prime example of this would be the failure of German democracy after WW1.
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