The Instigator
americanfascist
Con (against)
Losing
0 Points
The Contender
TheDebateMaster1
Pro (for)
Winning
29 Points

Did the holocaust happen?

Do you like this debate?NoYes+1
Add this debate to Google Add this debate to Delicious Add this debate to FaceBook Add this debate to Digg  
Post Voting Period
The voting period for this debate has ended.
after 7 votes the winner is...
TheDebateMaster1
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 8/6/2014 Category: Education
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 1,381 times Debate No: 60056
Debate Rounds (3)
Comments (12)
Votes (7)

 

americanfascist

Con

No. There was no systematic killing of people of Jewish descent that was mandated by the government, nor was there any gas chambers.

1. If gas chambers really existed, there would be blue build up of Zyklon B on the walls. None were ever found - those chambers were used for delousing.

2. No mass graves were ever found.
TheDebateMaster1

Pro

I accept this debate
Debate Round No. 1
americanfascist

Con

So, you don't believe the holocaust happened either?
TheDebateMaster1

Pro

No, I meant I accept as in i'll do it. The holocaust happened
Debate Round No. 2
americanfascist

Con

1 The post-WW2 books written by the wartime leaders Churchill, Eisenhower etc, they NEVER mentioned any systematic extermination of ANY ethnic group.

2 In the book titled 'Night', by Eli Wiesel, he doesn't mention gas being used, and when the choice came that he would retreat with the Germans or stay and be under the Soviet umbrella he chose to retreat with the Germans.

2 Auschwitz was a place where synthetic rubber was being produced. No US intelligence report EVER mentions gas chambers!

5 Jews took a census of their people before WW2 . If 6 million died, EVERY Jewish women on the PLANET would have to have had 13 children.
TheDebateMaster1

Pro

-Good Debate

Youtube has Lots of video clips of nazi camps. Ausscwitz is a museum, and you can see the camp, lots of burials were found, so argument 1 is invalid. Really, which books did you read by Churchill. Cite the cencus next time. Ther your entire argument is invalid
Debate Round No. 3
12 comments have been posted on this debate. Showing 1 through 10 records.
Posted by Saska 2 years ago
Saska
Wow... So you just hate the Jews then? Shouldn't you be proud of the holocaust, with your disgusting, hateful attitude, rather than trying to deny it?
Posted by americanfascist 2 years ago
americanfascist
I clearly said that there was no systematic killing of people of Jewish descent that was mandated by the government, nor were there any gas chambers. I didn't say people didn't die. Stop twisting my words, you kike. Go back to poisoning wells.

@Saska, that's the same place that spouts stuff like gender is a spectrum and that intersectional feminism is great, also ran by a Jew.
Posted by SocialistAtheistNutjob 2 years ago
SocialistAtheistNutjob
How could you even try to convince people that 12 million people killed in the holocaust never even existed? There are records of every person killed.
Posted by Saska 2 years ago
Saska
@Americanfascist... Do you honestly believe the holocaust did not happen???

http://rationalwiki.org...

Read over that site as a starter... there is plenty of evidence for it. If you are denying it, you are doing nothing more than showing willful ignorance. Just because you don't want it to be true, that doesn't make it not true.

I've been to Dachau in Germany. They have videos of the soldiers overtaking the camp, with video evidence of the mass graves. There are copies of speeches that Hitler made saying he is going to hang every Jew. There is so much evidence that it happened....
Posted by americanfascist 2 years ago
americanfascist
No, I'm claiming that you're a literal embodiment of the stereotype, lol
Posted by SocialistAtheistNutjob 2 years ago
SocialistAtheistNutjob
@AmericanFascist Are you claiming that I was biased in this debate? Everything that I stated was true. It seems like you didn't even attempt to fulfill your burden of proof. Your grammar could have been better. You also cited no sources, just made claims about what was in certain texts.
Posted by TheDebateMaster1 2 years ago
TheDebateMaster1
Hi americanfascist, hopefully not mad about me winning so far
Posted by americanfascist 2 years ago
americanfascist
lol SocialistAtheistNutjob is of jewish descent
Posted by NiamC 2 years ago
NiamC
Ikr. Wonder whats gonna happen in the next round?...
Posted by Kc1999 2 years ago
Kc1999
This debate woow
7 votes have been placed for this debate. Showing 1 through 7 records.
Vote Placed by CountCheechula 2 years ago
CountCheechula
americanfascistTheDebateMaster1Tied
Agreed with before the debate:-Vote Checkmark-0 points
Agreed with after the debate:-Vote Checkmark-0 points
Who had better conduct:-Vote Checkmark-1 point
Had better spelling and grammar:--Vote Checkmark1 point
Made more convincing arguments:-Vote Checkmark-3 points
Used the most reliable sources:-Vote Checkmark-2 points
Total points awarded:06 
Reasons for voting decision: This one is just common sense to be honest.
Vote Placed by FuzzyCatPotato 2 years ago
FuzzyCatPotato
americanfascistTheDebateMaster1Tied
Agreed with before the debate:-Vote Checkmark-0 points
Agreed with after the debate:-Vote Checkmark-0 points
Who had better conduct:--Vote Checkmark1 point
Had better spelling and grammar:--Vote Checkmark1 point
Made more convincing arguments:-Vote Checkmark-3 points
Used the most reliable sources:--Vote Checkmark2 points
Total points awarded:03 
Reasons for voting decision: Squo is holocaust happened, giving Con BOP. Con failed to provide sources, needed to.
Vote Placed by Saska 2 years ago
Saska
americanfascistTheDebateMaster1Tied
Agreed with before the debate:-Vote Checkmark-0 points
Agreed with after the debate:-Vote Checkmark-0 points
Who had better conduct:-Vote Checkmark-1 point
Had better spelling and grammar:--Vote Checkmark1 point
Made more convincing arguments:-Vote Checkmark-3 points
Used the most reliable sources:-Vote Checkmark-2 points
Total points awarded:06 
Reasons for voting decision: Con wasted a round, because "I accept this debate" is apparently confusing as to which side his opponent is on. Con loses conduct points for that, considering most debates on this site begin the first round with the opponent accepting the debate. I give sources to Pro, not because he used sources, but because he did not need to, while Con makes multiple claims requiring sources that he does not supply. And arguments go to Pro because Pro's argument is verifiable. Pro could have done a better job, but given the pitiful job done by Con, nothing more was required.
Vote Placed by YaHey 2 years ago
YaHey
americanfascistTheDebateMaster1Tied
Agreed with before the debate:-Vote Checkmark-0 points
Agreed with after the debate:-Vote Checkmark-0 points
Who had better conduct:--Vote Checkmark1 point
Had better spelling and grammar:--Vote Checkmark1 point
Made more convincing arguments:-Vote Checkmark-3 points
Used the most reliable sources:--Vote Checkmark2 points
Total points awarded:03 
Reasons for voting decision: Neither made a great argument, but Pro has truth on their side. Also, screw fascists.
Vote Placed by Mr.Lincoln 2 years ago
Mr.Lincoln
americanfascistTheDebateMaster1Tied
Agreed with before the debate:-Vote Checkmark-0 points
Agreed with after the debate:-Vote Checkmark-0 points
Who had better conduct:--Vote Checkmark1 point
Had better spelling and grammar:--Vote Checkmark1 point
Made more convincing arguments:-Vote Checkmark-3 points
Used the most reliable sources:--Vote Checkmark2 points
Total points awarded:03 
Reasons for voting decision: Of course the Holocaust was real. It was tragedy and should have never happened.
Vote Placed by SocialistAtheistNutjob 2 years ago
SocialistAtheistNutjob
americanfascistTheDebateMaster1Tied
Agreed with before the debate:-Vote Checkmark-0 points
Agreed with after the debate:-Vote Checkmark-0 points
Who had better conduct:--Vote Checkmark1 point
Had better spelling and grammar:-Vote Checkmark-1 point
Made more convincing arguments:-Vote Checkmark-3 points
Used the most reliable sources:--Vote Checkmark2 points
Total points awarded:04 
Reasons for voting decision: Con cited no sources. Con's burden of proof was nowhere near met. Pro also had better grammar.
Vote Placed by MrJosh 2 years ago
MrJosh
americanfascistTheDebateMaster1Tied
Agreed with before the debate:--Vote Checkmark0 points
Agreed with after the debate:--Vote Checkmark0 points
Who had better conduct:--Vote Checkmark1 point
Had better spelling and grammar:-Vote Checkmark-1 point
Made more convincing arguments:-Vote Checkmark-3 points
Used the most reliable sources:--Vote Checkmark2 points
Total points awarded:04 
Reasons for voting decision: CON had full BoP, but relied on a claim of the absence of evidence to support his position. CON also had more spelling errors.