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Diet and exersise!!!

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Started: 1/26/2018 Category: Health
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Debatwinnerpro

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FAT PEOPLE HAVE TO DO THIS.. I believe diet and exercise is needed (mainly diet)
seanhowells

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I understand that diet and excercise are both very important, but why should this be enfored? Everything happens for a reason. People who are obese are obese for a reason. There should be pressure on them, but there are so many things that need to be taken into consideration. Do these people live in a food desert? Is this because of cheap, government-subsidized, processed food? People should take their own health issues into their own hands, but they can't do this if they don't have the resources.
Debate Round No. 1
Debatwinnerpro

Pro

"processed" its called diet and EXERCISE!!! Also, it isnt super expensive to be healthy! bananas are the most cheap food you can buy! Obese people need pressure...

FAT ACCEPTANCE IS DEATH ACCEPTANCE!!!

it isnt only obesity but being overweight that kills!

"In 2015, nearly four million people died from disease related to their weight, most commonly from heart disease. But only 60% were technically obese, which is defined as a body mass index over 30. The other 40%, or 1.6 million people, were overweight but not obese." (https://www.theguardian.com...)

People go crazy on people for smoking when in reality OBESITY KILLS MORE PEOPLE THAN SMOKING (https://www.menshealth.com...)
seanhowells

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You considered nothing I said: Diet is an expensive thing to maintain in some areas. Over 23 million Americans live in a food desert, meaning an area, usually urban, in which it is difficult to by affordable fresh food. And half of those 23 million people are low-income, so they will not have much time for exercise either. When both those intersect in a food desert, obesity is imminent. You may have bananas in your area for pretty cheap, and it's great that it's not expensive to be healthy where you are, but in some areas it is.
I don't deny your facts about obesity and preventable disease, and it is a problem, but why are the people suffering from it being much more criticized instead of the local governments for allowing the food deserts to form and stay. Instead of reactive people like you, people have taken a proactive approach to this, building local community gardens with free fresh for for everybody.
There are still many people in areas with well-established food security, and to tackle that problem, we once again we don't attack the people affected by unhealthy eating and bad exercise, instead tackling the problem at the source, whatever it may be. By helping these communities and creating a new cultural attitude instead of demeaning them and expecting them to fix themselves on their own, we can finally eradicate the problem.
And before making these claims, understand what causes obesity and how it could realistically be fixed. All caps doesn't make you more dominant or correct in this debate. It is showing your adamance towards the second opinion.

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https://www.dosomething.org...
Debate Round No. 2
Debatwinnerpro

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You are right! But what you are saying doesnt deny that we NEED diet and exercise... the Government should help these people and get them healthy food, further proving my point... they NEED healthy food and exercise, but conditions prevent them from doing so...
seanhowells

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They need diet and exercise, it's black and white. Both of us have accepted it throughout all of the debate. The current argument you gave is awfully vague, so my response will be short. You didn't make any points involving the Government, society, even just other people trying to help. And the conditions you vaguely mentioned, but haven't said, contradict with your later statement. You are saying they it's in their control to do these two things, but have not said how they can do this, other than eating healthy, nor specifically how the government can affect this. The only thing to do now is make the public further aware of what they can do, and try to help them.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Debatwinnerpro 3 weeks ago
Debatwinnerpro
maybe the government should change, and help people in those situations... also bananas are the cheapest wherever you go... i live in the mountains where all produce is overpriced... bananas are still less than a dollar per pound
Posted by Debatwinnerpro 3 weeks ago
Debatwinnerpro
sirnoodles, FALSE! its actually obesity and just being PLAIN OVERWEIGHT but not obese yet! please read my source... its not just the extreme form that kills, it just kills people PERIOD
Posted by SirNoodles518 4 weeks ago
SirNoodles518
It's their choice. If someone feels as though they're overweight they shouldn't be forced to exercise but if they want to make a change then it should be recommended. Overweight people should be encouraged because it can eventually have negative effects on one's health if it goes too extreme but really it's the individual's choice.
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