Do Electors have the moral responsibility to vote the way the popular vote turned out?
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I'd like to argue that on US' case, Electoral System is not wrong.
What we need to understand that despite The United States is a democracy, is not (exactly) a republic country. In a republic country, the popular vote is the way to go. However, The United States is not a republic, but a (republic) federation. It is not an apple to apple comparison.
There are 50 states in America+ DC. The uniqueness of America's System is that each state has their own autonomy. I'd like to argue that Electoral College respects those autonomies and this does not exist in the popular vote.
Take a look at Alaska, representing 0.23% of the US. Under the Electoral System, this is doubled to 0.55% This is important because as an example of the government that respects Alaska. The Electoral System provides an Affirmative Action for the minority that cannot be provided by popular vote.
Without Electoral System, nobody cares about Ohio who represents 3% of the US. The Electoral System provides a way to appreciate the minority without extremely devaluating the majority.
You argued that the Electoral System does not represent the will of the people. I want to argue, that due to the state of the federation, it is correct for Electoral System to represent the will of the state, who in return represents the will of the people. These are two different things, but the latter is the correct action for a federation country.
We're not going to debate whether federation is the way to go since that is outside the state of the debate.
I'd like to argue that nothing is wrong with Electoral System, thus the Electoral has no moral responsibility nor any reason to betray the result.
Are you saying that because they have the *highest* GSP:population ratio, they deserve next to the lowest amount of vote on deciding the president?
You're punishing efficiency!
Alaska deserves affirmative action and Electoral College provides the most fair that the current status quo has to offer.
Second, I do not agree with the 22% of the votes. I understand where the number comes from but you're talking about an extreme worst case. You are comparing Electoral College is bad with the extreme worst case scenario is like comparing driving is bad when people dies from driving or having Google is bad because that allows people to search how to commit suicide. Oh yeah, people drives from driving! But we still drive because all things are equal, driving brings more benefit than harm. Oh yeah, people googles how to commit suicide, but all things are equal, Google brings more benefit than harm.
Worst scenario analysis does not work here. If how you attack is by giving an extreme example, let me give you another extreme example. With Electoral College, you only need to monopolize 11 states. With the majority vote, you only need to monopolize 9 states. This violates even further the concept of federation.
We concede that Electoral College is not perfect, but we'd like to argue popular voice is worse. The concept of popular vote damages the concept of Federalism even further.
Judging by Pro's argument, the Pro believes that Federalism is wrong. Clearly, the pro is debating the wrong motion. The Pro is making a Scarecrows Fallacy. He believes that by attacking Federalism, he attacks Electoral College. That is not the case.
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