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Do Jews control America

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 4/25/2013 Category: Society
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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1Devilsadvocate

Con

I came across the following debate "Do Jews control America" http://www.debate.org...
In which the user called "JuliusMaximus" argued pro & won (due to his opponents incompetence.)
I am now challenging him to debate the topic again, this time against me.
JuliusMaximus

Pro

I look forward to the debate.
Debate Round No. 1
1Devilsadvocate

Con

I'm not sure why my opponent has not made any arguments, I did not specify that R1 is for acceptance only, as pro, he must show that Jews control America, while I must counter his arguments. So until then, I'll point out some facts and figures:

-Jews make up less than 5% of the U.S. Population. as of 2008 they made up 2.2% of U.S. population.(1) (Christians make up about 75%, 20% have no religious affiliation)

-In the history of the United states, there has never been a Jewish president nor vice president.

-No Jew has even ever been nominated for president, only one Jew was ever nominated for vice president, and lost.

-Almost all of the presidents can be characterized as Christian, at least by formal membership. Some were Unitarian or unaffiliated with a specific religious body. Some are thought to have been deists, or irreligious. No president thus far has been an atheist, a Jew, a Buddhist, a Muslim, a Hindu, a Sikh or an adherent of any specific non-Christian religion. (2)

-If Jews controlled America, we would expect that even if they couldn't get one of their own even nominated for president, at the very least they would be able to affect which president gets elected. The facts tell us otherwise, the presidential winner does not seem to correlate with the Jewish majority vote. Since 1915 only about half of the winning presidents had the Jewish majority vote. To be exact 13 winners had, and 12 didn't. If we count from 1952, the winner had the majority vote only 7/15 times. So we see the Jews don't seem to control who wins the presidential elections at all. (3)

- The vast majority of the members of Obama's cabinet are not Jewish.

-There has never been a Jewish speaker of the house.

- The vast majority of congress is not Jewish, there has never been a Jewish majority in either house.

-Let's talk about the Judicial branch. How many Jewish Chief justices have there been in U.S. history? Zero.

-The vast majority of supreme court judges are not Jewish.

-In the history of the United States there has been a total of 8 Jewish supreme court judges.

-The Atlantic had an article entitled:"The Top 100 Influential Figures in American History" in which they asked 10 eminent historians, Who are the most influential figures in American history? Based on their answers they came up with a list of the top 100 influential figures in American history. Out of all those 100, only 1 was Jewish, Albert Einstein. & How much control or influence did he have over America? Not much. (4)
Same results from times survey of the top 20.(5)

-Richest American - Bill Gates not Jewish (#2 Warren Buffet as well is not Jewish)

-Steve Jobs was a Lutheran turned Zen Buddhist

-"Not one of the major television news operations"Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, ABC News, CBS News, or NBC News"is currently headed by a Jewish executive.(6)

-Let"s take a look at General Electric, one of the greatest media powerhouses. General Electric owns NBC/Universal Television Studio, and NBC/Universal Television and Universal Pictures, and 30% of Paxson Communications. It also owns the following NBC stations: WNBC (New York), KNBC (Los Angeles), WMAQ (Chicago), WCAU (Philadelphia), KNTV (San Jose/San Francisco), KXAS (Dallas/Fort Worth), WRC (Washington), WTVJ (Miami), KNSD (San Diego), WVIT (Hartford), WNCN (Raleigh), WCMH (Columbus), WVTM (Birmingham), WJAR (Providence). In addition, GE owns the following: Telemundo Stations: KVEA/KWHY (Los Angeles), WNJU (New York), WSCV (Miami), KTMD (Houston), WSNS (Chicago), KXTX (Dallas/Fort Worth), KVDA (San Antonio), KSTS (San Jose/San Francisco), KDRX (Phoenix), KNSO (Fresno), KMAS (Denver), WNEU (Boston/Merrimack), KHRR (Tucson), and WKAQ (Puerto Rico). And, finally, GE owns the following channels: CNBC, MSNBC, Bravo, Mun2TV, Sci-Fi, Trio, and USA...

GE is a publicly traded company, so it is owned by the stockholders, not by "the Jews." In any case, companies are run by their CEO"s. The CEO of this company for many years was Jack Welch - a devout Catholic.
The current CEO at General Electric is Jeffrey Immelt - a Presbyterian.
That"s a lot of media. However, Time-Warner is even bigger. Time-Warner the world"s largest media company is run by Richard D. Parsons - a Christian. Before Parsons it was run by Steve Case, also not Jewish. (7)

-None of the top 20 people on the Forbes Celebrity 100 is Jewish..." (6)

Let's take a look at some fortune 500's: (8)
Rank:1
Exxon Mobil -
CEO: Rex Tillerson
2. Wal-Mart Stores
Rank: 2 (Previous rank: 1)
CEO: Michael T. Duke
3. Chevron
Rank: 3 (Previous rank: 3)
CEO: John S. Watson
4. ConocoPhillips
Rank: 4 (Previous rank: 4)
CEO: Ryan M. Lance
5. General Motors
Rank: 5 (Previous rank: 8)
CEO: Daniel F. Akerson

I went through the top 10, didn't see a single Jewish CEO.

Bank of America Corp. is ranked # 13, highest of the banks.
CEO: Brian T. Moynihan - Not Jewish

J.P. Morgan Chase & Co. #2 bank #16 overall
CEO: James Dimon - not Jewish

All this isn't to say that Jews aren't successful, affluent, or influential, they most certainly are, and have every right to be, but to say that they control America is a gross exaggeration.

Now, I'm eager to see what proof my opponent has that Jews control America.
Keep in mind that just because an organization or industry is populated with members of a particular ethnicity does not mean that ethnicity has unified and concerted control of that entire enterprise.

(1)http://en.wikipedia.org...

(2)https://en.wikipedia.org...

(3)http://en.wikipedia.org...

(4)http://www.theatlantic.com...

(5)http://newsfeed.time.com...

(6)http://www.slate.com...

(7)http://www.hirhome.com...

(8) http://money.cnn.com...
JuliusMaximus

Pro

JuliusMaximus forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
1Devilsadvocate

Con

Oh well, it appears that my opponent has not shown up, I'd be willing to debate this again, with my opponent or anyone else who wants.
Vote Con!!!!!!

If anyone is interested, I'm having the same debate with someone else right now http://www.debate.org...;, I opened the same way, but over there the debate continued.

VOTE CON!!!!!!!!!!!!
JuliusMaximus

Pro

JuliusMaximus forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
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