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polishgirlinar
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stewiesoccer
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Do You Believe that the Federal Gov't should be enforcing the REAL ID (licenses)?

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 1/11/2008 Category: Politics
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
Viewed: 929 times Debate No: 1705
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polishgirlinar

Pro

The Homeland Security Department is issuing new rules for licenses.

By doing so they are making it harder for illegal immigrants, terrorists, and con artists (people who simply want to take advantage of others) to obtain a license.

The government has made it easier for states to switch to the REAL ID. They have lowered the cost from $14.6 billion to $3.9 billion and they give the states options for the security measures which they want to use.
7 States have already agreed to the REAL ID Act.

The added security that will be included lead to a safer America. Putting us one step closer to being able to live in peace without worry!
stewiesoccer

Con

Is there really a way to prevent these people who want to take advantage of others from obtaining an ID? I honestly believe that a system similar to this would work, but not in the particular way that the government has proposed at this time.
I believe that the only true way to make it harder for those who are not eligible for a license for whatever reason is to have a government issued ID that is linked together throughout all states.
So I suppose that I am both for and against, but in reality, there will always be that dishonest person out there that is willing to break rules for money so we are never going to be truly safe.
Debate Round No. 1
polishgirlinar

Pro

Actually the REAL ID would prevent those who want to take advantage of others from obtaining multiple ids. There would be a system the local DMV's could access that would let them know if a person already had an id in another state.

Therefore this system is linked throughout all 50 states, the only thing that is holding it back at this time is that not all 50 states have agreed to it. In time the states will agree to use it.
stewiesoccer

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stewiesoccer forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
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Posted by patrock2 9 years ago
patrock2
I just read about this. The full implications are sobering for us all. When Real ID is enforced it will mean that no citizen may enter a federal building, board an airplane, board a train without having their "Papers-In-Order? sound eerily reminiscent to Nazi's boarding trains and pulling people off? Do you truly get that? This is a national ID card masquerading behind the mask of terrorism. This is an unfunded federal mandate. Where are all the States Rights people now? Chertoff said and I quote"The Department of Motor Vehicles is now a part of Homeland Security". The federal government is considering penalties for states that don't comply,such as their residents not being allowed in ANY federal building...at what price freedom?
Posted by ZedLoch 9 years ago
ZedLoch
Ditto Mr. Walsh. This deserves some further exploration. If this is done, it must be done INTELLIGENTLY to achieve the desired result.
Posted by LandonWalsh 9 years ago
LandonWalsh
This need to be debated more... Nothing but opening statements
Posted by polishgirlinar 9 years ago
polishgirlinar
sorry I forgot to mention that I got the information from an article on cnn.com

http://www.cnn.com...
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