Do angels exist?
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Now, Angels have appeared in tales for years upon years, legends upon legends. They usually appear to deliver news or prophecies to the enlightened few. However, the stuff of legends is purely that; legends. I decided to save voters the trouble of skimming over your site with a quick investigation. It is a site with a collection of miracle accounts along with some teachings of Christianity. I failed to find the technology mentioned, so I'll assume my friend meant the Internet as a means of communication and documentation. Now, as you may already know, eyewitness accounts are known to be unreliable, with studies showing people tend to reshape memories afterwards.
The issue here is belief. While I admit I am on unstable grounds with this argument, so are you. When people dream, they are unconscious. However, they still retain some vague memories in the form of dreams as they awaken. Near death unconsciousness would have a similar effect to sleep where the brain would attempt to profile memories like normal sleep, and since recent memories or thoughts are usually the forefront of dreams, and the most recent thing was a near death experience, of course religious people would see religious figures. Muslims would most likely see their alternative divine figure. Myself, I would most likely dream of something else, or simply dream of crashes. Expectations of a vision can influence the vision.
But the proof you have supplied is more about proof of god than anything else. I dealt with how people can simply imagine things, and people have survived worse in terms of injuries. People have had pipes through their head, have been shot in the head, and have lost limbs, but the human body is damn good at surviving.
I would like to address how you see these sightings as proof of the Christian God, and the heaven it entails. You see, your site proposes these are fundamentalist angels fighting Satan, which directly brings up a new issue; Why doesn't God destroy these false angels? You know, with omnipotence and omniscience, God should really be better at stamping out treachery in his own ranks. Also, Heaven sounds like a horrible place. For the first few years, you might be content, but after the next few millenia, you would get bored of everything in existence. Immortality sucks.
I'm getting sidetracked here, so I'll sum up;
People have been known to dream when unconscious. People have been known to remember things differently and usually how they would prefer to remember it. Eyewitness reports cannot alone be taken as evidence for something, especially when the said testimony contradicts physics. Ultimately, this debate is not over, as it's only the surface of a much deeper debate, but don't lose your nerve, this is considered the most famous debate topic; God's existence. I'll see you next round.
isgodreal forfeited this round.
This is not a dream or imagination, this is real life, this is reality, this really happens. When we ignore what is real and put our own mindset in place, we are deliberately creating an illusion in our heads, instead of being honest and look at reality.
This is the whole purpose of my website: show people REALITY. Not pro and con arguments, which all have their place in our minds, which is not the real world. I post videos and testimonies of things that are real, documented, confirmed by many witnesses, etc.
Your testimonies are nothing without development from you, the debater. You hear some tales of people surviving normally fatal injuries, which is possible, and suddenly this is proof of angels? It's just as much proof that a demon saved you, or that a shark saved you, or anything for that matter. But the only possibility you consider is angels because you were raised with belief in angels.
I thought this would have been an interesting debate, but you have merely been using it s a means of advertising for your own site.
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