Do gay jokes offend lesbians and bi-sexuals?
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I accept, let's begin the debate.
First I would like to define some of the terms here.
When I said "lesbians and bi-sexuals," what I really meant was them as individuals, not as a whole. Also, I meant by that and "gay jokes" is since most gay jokes refer to gay men, not lesbians or bi-sexuals, so all I meant was, can they offend individual lesbians and/or bi-sexuals AS WELL AS gay men. I just wanted to clear that up for readers and my opponent. Thank you for pointing that out in your argument.
Finally, as I said in my first argument, it may offend some individuals, others, it may not.
At this point, I would to do a little anecdotal-type thing. I am bi-sexual myself and I wanted to know other people's opinions on the topic. Some jokes may offend me, others may not. I guess it depends on the degree of the joke and who is telling it. This is why I made this debate, in case any one was wondering at all.
Thank you for accepting my debate. Good sportsmanship from me to everyone! :-}
To begin we can see that my opponent has not completed his burden of proof to show that anyone gets offended. He claims that he's bi-sexual and maybe that's true, but with that kind of evidence he needs to prove it. For example, I can say that I'm Ayn Rand incarnate, but you don't know that for sure as I would have to prove it to you. Under this case my opponent has not shown a single case that they are offended.
My opponent concedes to the fact that he does not get offended by some jokes, so if we take his statement as true, we can see that some don't meaning that not all jokes offend them. This, in itself, disproves the resolution under my opponent's very own words.
My opponent fails to realize that he cannot speak for the entire population as he has failed to refute the fact that his argument on that part is a logical fallacy and must be thrown out of the debate.
With that I thank you and please vote Con.
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Vote Placed by U.n 8 months ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Round 1 Pro simply created the debate but offered no structure or definitions, and most importantly opted not to argue. This allowed Con to define the terms and get a head start in arguments. Round 2 Pro had to use half their argument space clarifying their intended definitions but still didn't offer a substantial argument but rather stated they were more so fielding opinions. As Con pointed out, Pro did not fulfill the BOP. Additionally only Con supported their argument with sources. The S&G and conduct were even. But I believe Pro handicapped themself too significantly in Round 1 which ultimately lead to my vote going to Con.
Vote Placed by Death23 8 months ago
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Reasons for voting decision: pros case is weak; only argument being his own personal anecdote and supposing; pro ambivalent on issue; con points out Pro's weakness; con cites the fact that "gay" usually refers to male homosexuals only and not lesbians or bisexuals; pro could have cited the fact that people with fked sexual orientations typically identify with each other as a group (hence "LGBT"), but he didn't do it
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