Do not allow Moslems into America.

"By the way, Mr. Obama, I understand, is a Muslim."

Reverend Wright. At a Christian Church. Ergo, not Muslim.

"9-11 has shown which is true for most Muslims: KILL ALL NON-MUSLIMS!"

Why are 0.005% of Muslims considered the majority in this statement?

"Who are Muslims loyal to: America. Or Islam?"

Who are Christians loyal to: America. Or Christianity?

Jihad is interpreted by many as ridding yourself of bad things, of overcoming yourself. and much of the verses from the koran that describe literal fighting were written in a time of war. duh. maybe look a little up instead of parroting your favorite talk show host. seriously, don't be so damn ignorant

This debate makes me sad. You have failed me, internet!

Pro forfeited.
Con wins.

>>Most Nazis actually adhered to agnostic or neo-pagan faiths and Christinity was to a degree persecuted in Germany as well. Also the Nazis were killing Jews for racial, not rleigious reasons.

Actually, no. Most Nazis were Christian. There were certainly agnostic and even neo-pagan Nazis. There wasn't a strict adherence to religion. Although, belief in Christianity was part of the Nazi Party Platform (article 22, if memory serves). A large reason for the racial hatred of Jews was based on religious reasons dating from the middle ages. They were the Christ-killers, greedy and slimy, and fomenting this hatred on racial as well as religious grounds served the Nazis well. Most of the top Nazis were Catholic including Hitler, none of whom were ex-communicated, save Goebbels (he married a protestant). Much of Nazism was taken from far-right Catholic views.

I wouldn't attribute Nazism to religious reasons as there's no direct lines between the two but trying to pawn off the movement on agnostics and neo-pagans when they were a minority (> 10%), but not excluded, is unjustified and revisionist history.

kcraine's point is accurate, the group was largely Christian, and blaming the actions of the Nazis on Christians would be just as fair as blaming terrorism on Muslims. - You may assign blame accordingly.

Although, I believe, if not for the logic behind religious martyrdom (even with prohibitions against such actions), crashing planes into buildings is a much less reasonable thing to do than attempting a conquest of Europe. In the former you are going to die, unless you're getting rewards after death (or think you are), that's a bad course of action.

Hmm... this is a close one in my opinion. Just going off arguments, Con probably wins (although I will admit to not having read over the arguments). This is because Pro dropped her arguments. This would mean clear victory for Con, had she reiterated her stance in a later round, but she didn't.

I'll probably vote Con, but wouldn't stake my life on it.

>>The far-fetched notion that man came from apes is a plethora of falsehoods, piled one on top of the other.

Humans are apes. Oddly enough there's no justifiable grouping which includes chimps, bonobos, gorillas and orangutans and does not include humans.

>>The "missing link" that shows man evolving from apes has never been found.

There are a large number of links found from the time of the human-chimp to modern humans. We specifically focus on finding these fossils and accordingly have a lot of them.

>>Did a mouse change into an elephant?

No. But, according to common descent, they certainly have a common ancestor. Though, there is an extinct species of elephant found in Cicily which was about the size of a dog (isolation on islands tends to cause animals to become dwarfed). Also, there is a species called an elephant shrew (which looks like a shrew with a trunk and relates more closely with elephants than rodents). Elephants are the last living family of the order Proboscidea, mice are order Rodentia, and shared a common ancestor about 82 million years ago.

>>Did a dog become a horse?

No. But, according to common descent, they certainly have a common ancestor. The two probably shared a common ancestor about 63 million years ago (both are Laurasiatheria).

http://www.pnas.org...

>>Logically, scientifically it fails.

Scientifically it's the cornerstone of biology.

Most Nazis actually adhered to agnostic or neo-pagan faiths and Christinity was to a degree persecuted in Germany as well. Also the Nazis were killing Jews for racial, not rleigious reasons.