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Mhmm_Bacon
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DoctorDeku
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Do the new search procedures at airports violate the 4th amendment

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DoctorDeku
Started: 1/7/2013 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Mhmm_Bacon

Con

I think no they do not because the TSA was created by the government and so was the 4th amendment. The 4th amendment protects us against unreasonable searches and seizures and the search procedures are not unreasonable. Those searches are to protect us. Though according to some sources the TSA are feeling private parts so they could go a bit easier on people. But all they do is to protect you. Also they should delete the scan pictures after
DoctorDeku

Pro

I thank my opponent for instigating this debate and I look forward to the ensuing clash!

I stand to argue that the TSA does violate the 4th Amendment on the grounds that searching private citizens on the suspicion they might be a terrorist is unreasonable. It doesn't matter what the intentions of the TSA are, or what they might be, they are not the nannies of American Citizens and they should not attempt to take a nanny role. furthermore the TSA has been wholly incompetent in doing their job of protecting the American Public anyway, instead of fulfilling their designated role they've promoted racial profiling and helped to create a culture of fear among the American public.

While we must never forget the tragedies of 9/11 we must also not allow that tragedy to prevent us from progressing and maintaining or rights. The very presence of the TSA does this and it is an unreasonable violation of the mental sanctity of American Citizens.

Finally my opponent speaks on the TSA's body scanners; this is an utterly unjust violation of personal privacy and is the perfect example of an unreasonable search. Who can forget the incident a few years back where the TSA actually leaked hundreds of pictures of naked body scans[1]? Despite the fact that my opponent claims the TSA *should* delete scans after the fact, the fact is that they do not delete these photos. And arguing that they should delete them is not adequate advocacy for my opponent.
[1] http://gizmodo.com...

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Debate Round No. 1
Mhmm_Bacon

Con

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DoctorDeku

Pro

Okay then.
Debate Round No. 2
Mhmm_Bacon

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Debate Round No. 3
1 comment has been posted on this debate.
Posted by philochristos 1 year ago
philochristos
I agree with you conclusion, but I disagree with your reason. Maybe I could play devil's advocate.
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