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Do we live in a democracy when gerrymandering is going on

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Started: 2/27/2014 Category: Politics
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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vm128

Con

America is a democracy, though the system is flawed. We do vote for who we want although things like gerrymandering make citizens feel like their vote is altered in order to favor a certain party. Gerrymandering is unfair and its kind of like cheating Americans out of their votes
imabench

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Not sure if first round is acceptance only or not but ill just throw a few things out there

1) Gerrymandering only affects one part of the actual government.

Gerrymandering is used entirely on the design of districts that elect people to the House of Representatives, these districts though have absolutely NO impact on Senate elections and Presidential elections, which are positions that hold far greater power and influence then the House of Representatives. If Gerrymandering hevaily influenced Senate and Presidential voting, then you may be able to argue that the country isnt a democracy, but because gerrymandering has no impact on Senate and Presidential voting, you can still call the US a fair democracy.

2) Gerrymandering only slightly influences the size of ones vote.

Gerrymandering of course manipulates potential votes to give one party a slight edge over the other party when the results ultimately come in, but Gerrymandering only slightly twists the power that people's votes hold. What i mean is that Gerrymandering does not silence a vote or take away someone's right to vote, and people still maintain their right and ability to cast a vote for the party/candidates they wish to elect. If Gerrymandering completely ignored votes or deleted them, then that could be argued as unfair democratic elections, but thats not what Gerrymandering does. Gerrymandering only twists SOME votes in SOME potential swing areas to give a party a SLIGHT edge over the other in ONE of the many branches of government.

Yes Gerrymandering can twist votes, but it only does so slightly, in a manner that is acceptable to still rate elections as fair and free.

Ill just start with those, over to you con.
Debate Round No. 1
vm128

Con

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Debate Round No. 2
vm128

Con

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imabench

Pro

Communist.....
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Jorge_D 2 years ago
Jorge_D
I believe that gerrymandering is at its peak, until they take census again and take the matter seriously, the political parties will always undermine the needs of the people.
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