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Brian186
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The Contender
1Devilsadvocate
Pro (for)
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8 Points

Do we need driver's licenses and license plates?

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1Devilsadvocate
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 3/28/2013 Category: Society
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 1,289 times Debate No: 31810
Debate Rounds (5)
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Votes (2)

 

Brian186

Con

I believe those matters should be left up to the auto industry to minimize the chances of fraud.
1Devilsadvocate

Pro

driver's licenses and license plates are important means of identification.
They are used to;
Find stolen cars
Find criminals escaping with a car
Amber alerts - find kids
Identify criminals
control who drives I.E. that only those who have passed driving tests drive, & those with bad driving past don't
Debate Round No. 1
Brian186

Con

All of those things can simply be done with Vehicle Identification Numbers (VINs).
1Devilsadvocate

Pro

1) VIN #s have nothing to do with drivers licence.

" License plates are evidence that registration fees have been paid and are a means of readily identifying a vehicle and tracing ownership."(1)

2) VIN #s are much much longer & harder to work with.

3) Vin #s of cars can overlap

4) Vin #s are much harder to see.

5) Vin # doesn't changes when ownership changes as does a license plate.

6) VIN #s are in the hands of manufactuers, who are also liable to fraud. With license plates the government can keep an eye on it as well.

(1) http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov...
Debate Round No. 2
Brian186

Con

You're right, those things can be easily achieved with license plates...
1Devilsadvocate

Pro

Thank you.

I appreciate your honesty, forthrightness, & willingness/ability to concede. It's a rare ability.

In order to get this over with quickly, for the remaining rounds, you can just write pass or something, rather than F.F. each round.

To the voters:
Please give Con the points for conduct.
Debate Round No. 3
Brian186

Con

If you're reading this, this is for round 4.
1Devilsadvocate

Pro

Extend.

(I won't be online for the next 2 days)
Debate Round No. 4
Brian186

Con

(Void filled).
1Devilsadvocate

Pro

Done.
Its been a pleasure.
Vote Pro.
Debate Round No. 5
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Vote Placed by Ragnar 3 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Concession.
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Reasons for voting decision: This is a pretty easy and strait forward vote. Pro asked that conduct be given to Con and I see no reason not to. Pro got the argument because Con conceded. Pro was also the only one that used a source.