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sports89man7
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kxmarlonfire
Pro (for)

Do you think modern America has learned anything since the civil war? Are we headed for another one?

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Started: 7/12/2016 Category: Politics
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Debating Period
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sports89man7

Con

With the recent events that are happening around the country about race relations and police brutality, I think that the civil war had broad implications on how jacked up this country is today and that we have learned nothing about race relations and civil rights. What do you guys think? Is america headed for yet another civil war?
kxmarlonfire

Pro

First of all, I should state that you picked the wrong option for your argument. The question is, "Is America heading towards another [race-fueled] civil war?, and you clearly were in favor, but you voted "Con/Against"... LOL
So I'm going to go ahead argue correctly to my position which is this: America IS heading towards another race-fueled civil war, which is why I voted "Pro/For".

You are clearly confused by your own question, and this should be an easy win haha XD

Regarding race relations and police brutality, there are many more factors that play a role in the growing separation between the two major sides on this issue: The "Black Lives Matter" position and the "All Lives Matter" position.

To address race relations in the U.S:

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"Racial discontent is at its highest point in the Obama presidency and at the same level as after the riots touched off by the 1992 acquittal of Los Angeles police officers charged in Mr. King"s beating."

"The proportion of Americans who believe race relations are generally good has declined over all since 2009."

[Source: http://www.nytimes.com...]

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First thing to note is the enormous amount of media attention on the recent police brutality events of cops (mainly white) against black individuals. The narrative has been crafted by not only the media, but also by the BLM movement that all these recent police shootings against black people were fueled by some sort of racial profiling or discrimination. This has grown an overwhelming amount of energy and anger around the issue, which has created a massive divide between the two sides. The evidence that the BLM movement puts forth are things such as how "Law enforcement searches black drivers more than white drivers" [Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com...], when the All Lives Matter movement puts forth counter evidence such as how "Cops killed twice as many whites than blacks in 2015" [Source: http://www.dailywire.com...]. Although both positions seemingly have sufficient arguments and evidence to back their cases, neither seem to budge on the legitimacy of their position, which has shown to have created massive anger between the two positions that has been presented in events such as as the "Pigs in a Blanket, Fry like Bacon" chant that was held at a BLM rally. [Source: http://dailycaller.com...]

With the increasing number of police shootings against black individuals that have been given widespread attention through news media and all forms of social media, the ticking time bomb that is the fuel for a race-fueled conflict in the U.S becomes ever so increasingly volatile. The Black Lives Matter movement sparked a flame in the confused and angry hearts of the black communities all across America when the Trayvon Martin shooting happened (It was after this shooting that the BLM movement began with using the hashtag "#BlackLivesMatter"). With the increasing number of recent events of where police officers are seemingly shooting young black men unjustifiably; it continues to grow hatred and separation in the U.S.

The first example of the growing separation is the Baltimore Riot after the police shooting of the young black man Freddie Gray. The protesters of the Baltimore Riot were involved in multiple robberies of local stores, and the vandalization of private property which resulted in 9 million dollars of damages. The most recent event of a racial hate-fueled attack was the Dallas shooting of 12 officers. The event involved a racially frustrated individual named Micah Johnson, who used a sniper rifle to target and kill police officers after being "upset with Black Lives Matter, recent police shootings, and white people" [Source: http://insider.foxnews.com...]

Another thing to mention that is incredibly dangerous to sparking any more race-related acts of hatred:
Even though the Black Lives Matter organization has already denounced Micah Johnson of his shootings, the implication is that he was in support of the BLM movement and proceeded with his actions under influence of the movement. To be very clear, the BLM movement is a very loosely tied organization, and it is incredibly easy for misinformed or just flat out crazy supporters to ruin the image of the BLM movement, creating an even greater divide in the public eye of the two positions. A division has already been made, and it is far too easy for followers of either side of the argument to further spark hatred between the two sides for there to NOT be a race-fueled conflict in the future of America.
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Posted by Agingseeker 1 year ago
Agingseeker
I find the North MUCH more racist than the South. Camden NJ or Washington DC you could be killed for being a different color from the folks you are walking with. But down South I have not found that. In fact I found the great ladies of Arkansas to be so fine compared to their Northern counterparts. Exceptions of course.
The South learned a lot from the Civil War, the North not so much
Posted by Agingseeker 1 year ago
Agingseeker
I find the North MUCH more racist than the South. Camden NJ or Washington DC you could be killed for being a different color from the folks you are walking with. But down South I have not found that. In fact I found the great ladies of Arkansas to be so fine compared to their Northern counterparts. Exceptions of course.
The South learned a lot from the Civil War, the North not so much
Posted by MentalDeadlock 1 year ago
MentalDeadlock
What is con defending? Are you advocating that we ARE NOT heading towards another civil war, or that we HAVE NOT learned from the first?
Posted by evanjfarrar 1 year ago
evanjfarrar
I have doubts about the factual basis of this debate. It seems the Con position is only one from which inevitably inflammatory rhetoric will make things even worse.
Posted by ConserativeDemocrat 1 year ago
ConserativeDemocrat
Do you think we are heading to another civil war?
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