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Does God exist

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Started: 12/1/2015 Category: Religion
Updated: 11 months ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Giron_no_o

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Im not quite sure you understand, the most basic question "Who created God" is one that shows lack of understanding. For atheists, if you really dig down deep on what they believe, have an even worse explanation of things such as creation. If you believe in the big bang, you believe (as any scientist would tell you) that the universe came from NOTHING. Do you understand what that means? NOTHING produced SOMETHING. Or if you believe maybe gravity or some random gasses OR even dark matter created the universe then what you are believing is that those things mentioned, are ETERNAL meaning they have always existed. So you would rather believe in gravity or dark matter to be eternal and creating space, time and matter than an all Powerful being who is spaceless, timeless, immaterial and personal. I dont even think you undestand all the amazing things about the universe or the world we live in. Do you realize that the earth is rotated at an angle that allows us to have the 4 seasons, or that our atmosphere is the only one capable of containing life, or even the distance of the earth to the sun not too close so that we'd burn and not too far that we'd freeze and if this distance if adjusted a few inches we burn or freeze. Speaking of the sun, without it nothing would even exist! So this is all chance and luck? By believing in the big bang you believe that is also created the extremely important force of gravity, without it we would not be alive, because this force is what keeps us rotating around the sun and not flying off into space (along with other planets), how can a cosmic explosion produced gravity, or even over millions of years can these planets get into the right position to rotate around the sun. you say God does not exist, well i sure hope he does cuz the earth spins at 1000 mph ( 1609.34kmh) and orbits the sun at 18.5 miles per second (30km/sec). I need more faith to be an atheist, to believe we are here by mere CHANCE?? And also life can not arise from none life, the theory of spontaneous generation (life arises from none life) was believed for nearly 2000 years. It was eventually proved wrong my Louis Pasteur. So how can a cosmic explosion create life? It cant because the big bang is not alive. As this very wise person said: "At this moment it seems as though science will never be able to raise the curtain on the mystery of creation. For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries." R13; Robert Jastrow (was an American astronomer, physicist and cosmologist. He was a leading NASA scientist, populist author and futurist.)
Your other question (paraphrasing) "why does God allow evil". This is because God did not create robots. He created man with the ability to think and act for themselves. People are given the chance to choose right or wrong, God wont interfere with that choice because then you would not have free will. This is why God sent Jesus to die for all of our sins. Because he wants you to have the ability to choose that you (and everyone else), among all this evil in mankind, need a savior. z88;
katchabeswaransriram

Con

Hello my dear friend. Thanks for posting this wonderful and mysterious topic does God exist. also, congratulations on such a big argument on the topic supporting the existence of God.

Yet, I disbelieve in the existence of God. I believe the creation of Universe is mere chance and never as what you said by God.
It's always the nature of physics to reinvent itself from nothing. There is no special power or force is really required to make Universe from Nothing. To be practical our modern science covers only 3% of our entire Universe and there are infinite number of Universes present throughout our big galaxy. All stars like Sun will have its own System like our Solar System.

Definitely, a star which is more or less the same size of our Sun having planet with a distance like similar to Earth and Sun will have life form exists which is out of our reach with present day Technology. So, you rather say that all these life forms are created by a External force or Eternal Power called God?

Also, you have mentioned that people was allowed by God to think on themselves and therefore, war, famine, infanticides are taking place. If he has let us to take our own decisions then why we need to work ship him as the eternal power? we are free from him.

Also, I will give a good example of How God became into Existence in this World:

One man work ship a GOD for 2100 bucks so that he can repay his debts and loan.

3 scenarios are possible:

1) It never Happens.
2) It will Happen immediately.
3) It will happen slowly.

In 1 st case we say maybe we were not truthful enough to God and therefore he punishes us with not giving what we desired for.

In 2 nd case we say God is merciful enough to look after a small man's need and therefore he is King of all.

In 3 rd case we say God is grateful enough to look after my desire.

In all three cases we saw above deals with the perception and thinking of a individual solely and this has nothing divine or eternal content in it.

Any of the case above is definitely going to happen and can never have another alternative.

The same desire could have been asked for even to a Stone present in the Road, any of the one scenario would take place.

So, I strong;y object and even believe Existence of God is completely impossible.
Debate Round No. 1
Giron_no_o

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katchabeswaransriram

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Debate Round No. 2
Giron_no_o

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katchabeswaransriram

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