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Does luck exist?

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litforbrains
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 5/16/2014 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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lynntheashtaperson

Con

You see, "luck" doesn't really exist and is nothing more than a word that we have attached to a circumstance where success or failure is brought on by chance rather than actions. It exists because things do happen by chance or when we are unaware of things instead of by action/intention. We have simply associated a word for it.
litforbrains

Pro

I assert that if we have associated a word with luck, then it exists. I could use your argument to say that Trust doesn't exist, because it's just a word for an idea based on mutual respect, and a feeling of safety among individuals/groups. Does the feeling of safety exist? Sure, it happens. So trust exists.

The better question is this: let's accept your definition of luck. Are there circumstances where success and failure are brought on by chance?

Statistically speaking, it's an inevitability. If we define success purely in financial terms, there has to be a luck element involved. What if someone was born with a "silver spoon" in their mouth, so to speak? They are lucky. They won the birth lottery. To win the lottery requires luck, which is enough proof that it exists.
Debate Round No. 1
lynntheashtaperson

Con

First off, we can both agree that trust is based on the firm belief in the reliability, truth, dependency, or ability of someone or something. Thus, trust can be proven to exist because it is when you rely on certain things and/or people to not let you down or stab you in the back.

"Are there circumstances where success and failure are brought on by chance?"
-Yes there occurs circumstances where success and failure are brought on by chance this is what I implied in the first argument because we do not control our lives, we can just maneuver them by the choices we make.

If you are born with a silver spoon in your mouth then it is not luck,of course not - they've got their background, training, country they live in, city they live in, whatever - as a result of the conscious decisions of the people that came before them. Luck has nothing to do with that. Here, just like many people you are naming a certain event to be lucky.

Finally, the lottery has nothing to do with luck- just probability.
litforbrains

Pro

You write that "we do not control our lives, we can just maneuver them by the choices we make." By making this claim, you are asserting that there is an element of our lives that is out of our control. An element that includes chance, or probability.

What is the difference between probability and chance? I see them as synonyms. The former implies a more mathematical nature, and can be predicted with equations and the like. In that case, chance is just probability that hasn't been examined closely enough.

On the other hand, who can predict the future with mathematical certainty (as in probability)? No one can do it with 100% accuracy. There is always an element of unpredictability in this universe. An element that transcends a mathematical and scientific equation. And when we do find a scientific answer for these elements (with time and research and development and technological breakthroughs), there will remain new and undiscovered elements of reality.

Therefore, luck exists. It is another word to describe the unpredictable elements of reality. The elements that we don't have tools for.
Debate Round No. 2
lynntheashtaperson

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litforbrains

Pro

Would you like to continue debating the existence of luck?
Debate Round No. 3
lynntheashtaperson

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litforbrains

Pro

If you're still up for Round 5, let me know. Thank you.
Debate Round No. 4
lynntheashtaperson

Con

lynntheashtaperson forfeited this round.
litforbrains

Pro

It seems that my opponent is no longer debating this topic.
Debate Round No. 5
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