Does prayer work?
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So a study has shown that human though, a person concentrating on a specific number, affects the random number machines results. We also know that, according to quantum mechanics, the entire universe is a random number machine, so prayer will affect the world around.
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The BoP is on him as it is his job to prove prayer works. He didn't. A wikipedia page isn't evidence for prayer. The experiment in question is flawed as well. Even if the experiment was legit, it wouldn't prove prayer worked. For example, I can't tell you the amount of times when I was younger I prayed, and nothing happened. I prayed for people in Africa to get better lives, for homeless people, for good test scores, and for candy, and nothing happened. Why? Because prayer does not work. You might say, "God doesn't answer all prayers." However, the bible says that if you pray, what you asked for will be given too you. Why doesn't prayer give me what I desire? Because it doesn't work.
"The BoP is on him as it is his job to prove prayer works. He didn't. A wikipedia page isn't evidence for prayer. The experiment in question is flawed as well. Even if the experiment was legit, it wouldn't prove prayer worked. For example, I can't tell you the amount of times when I was younger I prayed, and nothing happened. I prayed for people in Africa to get better lives, for homeless people, for good test scores, and for candy, and nothing happened. Why? Because prayer does not work. You might say, "God doesn't answer all prayers." However, the bible says that if you pray, what you asked for will be given too you. Why doesn't prayer give me what I desire? Because it doesn't work."
Probably because you were praying stupid prayers, god, like any reasonable person with a life to live, doesn't answer stupid questions. Except the Africans getting better lives, the truths is that people like Keith green have been doing that, are you expecting him to do EVERYTHING for you.
You want the Africans toi get better lives, go help them get better lives.
You want the homeless people to be better off, help the out.
You want better test scores, study more and pay attention in class.
You want candy, go earn some money and buy candy.
It doesn't matter if a prayer is "stupid", although I don't see why praying for poor people in Africa is stupid. The bible states if you pray, what you prayed for will happen. Also, I want you to name say 5 examples of time prayer actually worked.
I can name 5 times prayer didn't work.
1) When I prayed to get rid of child slavery
2) When I prayed for God to end poverty
3) When I prayed for God to help the victim of a motorcycle crash
4) When I prayed for the California drought to end
5) When I prayed for my family to win an IPad
Why weren't those prayers answered? Because prayer doesn't work. If you pray, nothing will happen. If prayer actually worked, there would be no poverty, no injuries, and everyone would have a good life. However, prayer never works and God just seems to be on a permanent vacation so the world is filled with evil and suffering and prayers are never answered.
Well, here are some verses that say if you pray, you will receive it:
1) Matthew 7:7
2) Matthew 21:22
3) Mark 11:24
4) John 14:13-14
So yes, the bible does say prayer works. However, when I pray, nothing happens; it isn't God saying no, or him not answering. Therefore, prayer doesn't work.
What is that, ask, seek, knock, 2/3 of those sound like something you do yourself.
Matthew 21:22 "And all things, whatsoever you shall ask in prayer, believing, you shall receive"
I see "believing", ever hear of the placebo effect?
Mark 11:24 "Therefore I say to you, what things so ever you desire, when you pray, believe that you will receive them, and you shall have them"
Again, we see this believe thing, not this say it thing.
John 14:13-14 ""And whatsoever you ask in my name, that I will do, that the father be glorified in the son.
If you love me keep my commandments"
This one is a little hard to contest in the way that it doesn't even provoke your point, but I see "in my name", not "you want candy I give you some".
What that really means is that if you ask God for something, you will get it.
The placebo effect will not work here. If I believe I have a mansion, or if I believe their is no suffering, that just makes me an idiot. What that means is if you are a believer, and are a Christian, then ask and you shall receive.
That means if I ask for something, believe it will happen, then I will actually get it.
That means that if you pray in God's name, you will receive it.
I also would like for you to prove prayer exists, which you still haven't done. These verses show that prayer should work, but it doesn't.
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