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Does the USA scare its citizens on purpose?

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Started: 11/29/2014 Category: Politics
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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AmeenDebateLord

Pro

This is envolved with Obama, 9\11, Iraq,ISIS and Edward Snowden. Edward Snowden has released Americas secret about the NSAs. Obama replied by saying that it is used to prevent terrorism. He then brought up Al Qaeda and says that he doesn't want 9\11 to happen again. Everyone has heard about the conspiracies that 9\11 was set up by the CIA. I believe the government terrorised the nation in order for it to take away its rights. I have prof of this because 6 days before his assassination J.F.K said " I wish to expose of a plan that wants to enslave the people. I am pro that this is true you must be con saying it is not.
Mike_10-4

Con

I accept this debate and looking forward in a learning experience.
Debate Round No. 1
AmeenDebateLord

Pro

I have lots of proof of this topic. And at certain points i will have to bring religion into this but pretty much everything i said in round 1 and umm this....
There has always been conspiracies about Al Qaeda being set up by the CIA. But somepeople say it is because they hate Muslims but i have stuff to add on to that... This also ties into Nastradamous' prophecies. He said that The East will be Weakened in constant conflict and the west will fall do to riots.I think that Obama has something to do with this. First of all the Qaeda attacks on pentagon have been proven not to be a plane as the hole measured only 60-90 feet which would match a crater of one made by a missile not a plane. Now we go into ISIS and Iraq. I think the reason America invaded Iraq is to weaken the East In order for ISIS to be able to thrive. Edword snowden has also whistled some facts about USA training elite troops in Syria. Hillary Clinton has also said some stuff about America playing a role in funding ISIS to terrorize the american nation and keep the NSAs going. this is a big plan taking decades in the making (decade= John Kennedy). Anything to declare?
Mike_10-4

Con

Pro made many “conspiracy” claims about the relationship between the US and Muslims is one for the purpose to scare US citizens. The Muslim ideology is one of conquest. They been at war long before the US became a country.
http://wikibin.org...

Today the Middle East has oil money, and atomic energy is in their reach. It is true the US foreign policy is not making many international friends. Is this a “scare” tactic, or just typical big government contaminated with presidential ideology?

Pro believes that the US “government terrorised the nation in order for it to take away its rights.”

It may be a surprise to Pro we lost our freedom long ago. For example, if the government wants to incarcerate, or spoil Pro's day, or freeze Pro's bank accounts, etc., they could because there are so many laws on the books, on the average we commit 3 felonies a day.
http://www.amazon.com...
http://blogs.loc.gov...

As Lavrenti Beria, chief of Josef Stalin's secret police, once stated, “You bring me the man, I'll find you the crime.”

The US citizen did not lose their freedom from “scare” tactics, but by dumbing down US citizens via the government controlled educational system.

About a hundred years ago, during the dynasty of the former President Woodrow Wilson (a leading father of modern liberal progressivism) was a promoter of the Social Darwinism ideology, advocating little resistance to constitutional structural change, so the ruling-class in DC can get more power and control embracing a soft tyranny. Wilson stated the following from his book:

http://books.google.com....

Living political constitutions must be Darwinian in structure and in practice.”

Wilson, in his book, also took issue with the individual's Unalienable Rights, where he went on to say:

No doubt a great deal of nonsense has been talked about the inalienable rights of the individual, and a great deal that was mere vague sentiment and pleasing speculation has been put forward as fundamental principle.”

Clearly, Wilson rejected the foundation of the US Constitution and started a slow cancer known as the progressive liberal “living constitution,” and this cancer is starting to metastasize. Today's Congress represents the lobbyist more than the people, while the President has a “pen and a phone” to make law, and also, the administration branch (a fourth branch not part of the US Constitution's three branches) is made up of hundreds of departments (IRS, NSA, EPA, etc.). These departments employ hundreds of thousands of government employees, who are not elected, writing regulations having the same power as law, to control, monitor us, etc. Our courts are out of control making modifications to law or new law, as the Justice Department enforcing only those laws by the will of the President. Today, the people are essentially out of the loop, except on Election Day, and look what choices we have, as our state and local governments become appendages to DC.

The US government is not scaring its citizens, but keeping its citizens in the dark for many generations. Today the citizens are starting to become scared of their government.

To quote Yuri Bezmenov, former propagandist for the KGB, interview in 1984 with G. Edward Griffin, “Once the US citizens begin to understand what is happening, it will be too late.”
www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4

Today, we are in a post Constitutional era, the US follows the 10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto closer than following the US Constitution.
http://www.libertyzone.com...

Does the USA scare its citizens on purpose?” The answer is no. But instead, the US citizens should fear the office of the president.
Debate Round No. 2
AmeenDebateLord

Pro

AmeenDebateLord forfeited this round.
Mike_10-4

Con

Standing by.
Debate Round No. 3
AmeenDebateLord

Pro

AmeenDebateLord forfeited this round.
Mike_10-4

Con

Standing by.
Debate Round No. 4
AmeenDebateLord

Pro

AmeenDebateLord forfeited this round.
Mike_10-4

Con

Debate has ended.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by Vajrasattva-LeRoy 2 years ago
Vajrasattva-LeRoy
More Gibberish ...

Don't call Politicians "the government" , let alone the U.S. , or whatever.

The idea that something that JFK may or may not have said
back in 1963 proves something in 2001 doesn't make sense.

There seems to be plenty of evidence that upper- level politicians
knew beforehand that the so-called "terrorist attacks" of 9-11-01
were planned to happen, & deliberately allowed them to happen.
I suspect that the person behind the attacks was George Bush, senior, who at one time was the Director of the CIA, a Masterspy, to "save" his son, George Bush, the younger, who was supposedly the president at that time.
I haven't, however, found any real proof backing that up.
Anybody????
Posted by imnotacop 2 years ago
imnotacop
God wish I had a chance to go pro on this. Read Noam Chomskey's Hegemony or Survival. You'll learn a lot about this and exactly why pro is correct.
A great quote from it "While the enemy at home often has to be controlled by intensive propaganda, beyond the borders more direct means are available. "
Posted by Pegasus4 2 years ago
Pegasus4
The JFK Quote is actually fake

https://www.metabunk.org...
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