Does the government have a special responsibility to help minorities
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We need to make sure that everyone in a society feels welcome and accepted, because otherwise that could lead to crime, school shootings etc. If everyone feels like they are contributing to a community, and working together no matter their background, people would also be better to accept people even if they are different. We could look at Scandinavia. They are a bunch of countries with a homogeneous community, and for example, the Danish crime rates are almost at zero, and the former government Denmark had, would make small steps for making sure all people would fit into the community.
So in conclusion, we might to take some steps that creates "inequality" and those steps might lead us to even more equality. Equality is many things. One of the things that defines equality, is that everyone have the same chances in life. In some states in the Unites States of America, transgender people could lose their job and housing, because they are being who they are. That is actually inequality because they can not maintain their housing and job, but as you describe it, if we were to put laws in place that would ban employers from firing people based on who they are, that is inequality. We can not please everyone when doing politics.
You talk about private businesses and choosing who they hire and fire. Cool. That is totally fine. But. From what I understand, you think it is totally fine to let someone go, for being who they are. That is like total inequality. That would also shame people into being something they are not. That is inequality. From what I understood, we both want societies that are equal. Firing someone based on the gender identity, or the religion they have chosen to follow, is not at all equality. That is not giving everyone the same chances in life. That completely defeats the purpose of the constitution in USA. If I may quote:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed"
But we are not equal if someone is fired for the colour of their skin. Yes, the business should be able to hire whomever they feel like could do the best job, but letting someone go just because of them being a minority is a damn bad excuse, and completely defeats the meaning the constitution.
I think we have gone slightly off-topic, if we were to talk about freedom of speech, but since you're the host, I will follow your lead.
I do believe in freedom of speech, and that we should all be able to voice our opinions as loud as we wish.
But. I also live by another rule, which I "invented" myself.
"Live your life as you desire, as long as you do not harm/hurt anyone in the process".
The problem with freedom of speech is that it does not teach people when to use it, and when not to. Do not get me wrong, I fully support it, but I do think we need to make sure that it does not defeat people living their life to their fullest. The civil rights movement, lead by Martin Luther King Jr. He used the freedom of speech for the better. He got to voice his opinions, and actually got to create more equality for the black people in America, and possibly in all over the world.
That is one of many examples where freedom of speech has helped a lot.
But we need to be able to see things from both sides. Freedom of speech can be harmful. Minorities can suffer greatly because of it. I've heard quite often the phrase "All Muslims are terrorists" and "All refugees should be sent back home, because they cannot be integrated in a modern society." If I was a Muslim I would be really hurt, by all of these comments. We need to be better to teach people about when to use freedom of speech, and when not to. Because if we were to have a non-restricted freedom of speech, who knows how the world would look today? I do not think it would be as "peaceful" as it is today.
This might be extremely socialismish, but a lot of people have fought over many generations to be here where we are. They have fought for human rights. They have fought for people being able to get out of their social ranking. And being able to hire/fire someone is a privilege here in the modern societies. Firing someone based upon their personal stuff, is discrimination at its finest. People have fought against discrimination for a very long time. They have fought a very hard battle to get to where we are today, but we still have a long and tough battle ahead of us. And this would be a very big step back on the road of progress we have made.
"So vote for con if you don't want less freedom for companies and if you don't want to see minorities get more benefits just because they are a minority." I just quoted you. You say you do not want to give more "benefits" to minorities just because they are a minority. I do not think it is a benefit to make sure transgender people can keep their home, or making sure that people can live their life as they desire without the fear of people jumping on you on, in the middle of the night just because you're "different". I think personal freedom is extremely important, and should not be compromised at all. An individual should have the ability to life live without the fear of losing their job or house, just because they are gay, transgender, a Muslim and etc.
We need to make sure everyone feels safe in the country they are staying in, and we also have to make sure that you can be comfortable in your own skin. And yes, we might to make anti-discrimination laws, but those are great! I mean, making sure gay people can get into a partnership, is not something I see as a benefit, I see it as a right. Making sure all people can worship whatever they please is something I also see as a right, not a "benefit".
Thank you for a nice debate where we had a nice and clean tone, and not getting angry at each other. I've had a few of those in the past.
I wish everyone a lovely summer!
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