Does the islamic state represent islam?
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Islamic state - referring to the area in the middle east where Islam is the main religion / countries that follow Sharia law / countries that have a majority of Islamic principles
Islam (in the context of being represented) - The majority of people who follow Islam as a religion
I will allow my opponent to first post his main contentions, while also clarifying any definitions that are needed. I wish my opponent the best of luck and hope that we both can become more informed on this comprehensive topic.
The "Islamic State" that I am referring to is the formal name for ISIS- The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria. ISIS is a militant group that has swept through Iraq and Syria and has gained followers not only from Iraq and Syria but from the United States and the United Kingdom. Now that I have given a little background on ISIS or the Islamic State, the real question is do they represent Islam. I believe they do. I have listed reference from the Quran itself that sanction ISIS' behavior.
Let me further explain what I mean. ISIS is to Islam as the Westboro Church is to Christianity. Modern Christianity is a relatively non-violent religion, however large groups of people perform violent acts while claiming they are representing their religion. This group includes abortion clinic bombers, psychopaths, those who partook in the crusades, etc. The violent group actually follows scripture from the bible that sets them off to commit these atrocities, the bible has extremely brutal text similar to the Quran, however most of the followers do not take these verses seriously. Compared to the 1.2 billion followers of Islam, the thousands (if not hundreds) of terrorists seem like the statistical outlier.
The following note is somewhat unrelated to the debate, however I believe it may help to paint a better picture of how severe our concern for the moderate muslims in this country really is.
According to reports from the Triangle Center on Terrorism and Homeland security and the Combating Terrorism Center at the U.S. Military Academy, there were only thirty-three incidents of lethal Muslim-American terrorism since 9/11; however there has been more than 200 Americans killed in political violence by white supremacists and other groups. (this does not include the past few weeks) According to a study conducted by Carnegie Mellon researchers, applicants who self-identify as Muslim are called back at a lower rate nationwide by prospective employers than Christians with the exact same names and qualifications, the issue being more prevalent in conservative states. Two percent of applicants who identify as Muslim were called back compared to the 17 percent who identify as Christian.
As you can see, the moderate Muslim in America is treated like they are represented by "the Islamic state", however the amount of damage they do to our country and civilians seems to greatly suggest otherwise.
I concede that many of the countries where Sharia law is dominant, that havoc reigns. Sharia law, in most of its forms, is extremely violent and immoral. It is true that a large portion of Muslims live under these laws, however a large portion of Muslims are quite modernized and moral. The issue with Sharia law is that it is forcefully put into effect by a group of people, instead of the whole. If you had to vote on wearing a face covering all day and getting beaten without protection from the law, would you vote in favor? It is my job to prove that Islam, or a majority opinion by its believers, is not represented by the Islamic State. As you have stated in your definitions, the Islamic state is represented by the militant group ISIS, not the sharia law in certain countries. I will assume that was a separate point.
You have a good argument, however I urge you to refute my other contentions that I brought up in round two.
The reason that Muslims are allowed to practice peacefully in the world is because of secularism. The United States is a country where the freedom of religion is guaranteed. If the United States was governed by Sharia Law then we would be in the same situation as Saudi Arabia and other Theocratic governments. Do we change the law or do we change the way we practice and enforce the law. All the Islamic State is doing is practicing the law the way it was written. Any country that claims Sharia Law as its law and tries to reform its law would be hypocritical to Islam. Sharia Law is law derived from the "perfect" Quran given by Allah. If a country is truly governed by Sharia Law than it will not prosecute a man for domestic abuse against his wife, will execute an apostate, will stone adulterers, will chop off the hand of a thief and will not allow non muslims to live in their country without paying a jizya( a high tax). The Islamic State practices all of these things.
Sharia law is simply one of the things that the Islamic state practices, how does it represent every Muslim? If a group of religious people practice a certain belief system but other members of the same religion denounce said belief system, why would you assume that all followers abide by such a system? The Quran and the Bible both have atrocities committed in their texts, like Mohammed marrying a seven year old girl and Yahweh flooding the entire world, killing everyone alive. In the Christian bible, god claimed that anybody who got a divorce should be stoned to death. However, we do not judge all Christians by these laws because they denounce them, Protestants believe that Jesus released us from the burden of the Old Testament laws. If Muslims living in industrialized countries no longer believe in that system, regardless of whether it was in their doctrine or not, why should we judge them any differently than we judge the many denominations of the Christian church?
I would like to remind you that you have not refuted my point in round two about most moderate Muslims being harmless, you have also not refuted my assertion that ISIS is merely a small sect out of the 1.2 billion practicing Muslims that are violent and is a number comparable to any other major religion.
Please remember that as pro, it is your job to prove that the Islamic state (which we earlier defined as ISIS) represents the whole of Islam. This is not a discussion about Sharia law.
In this debate, we discussed many different arguments. The original resolution is "Does the Islamic state represent Islam?". In rounds one and two, we defined "Islamic State" as the militant group ISIS, and we defined Islam as the majority of people who follow the religion.
In my opponent's last contention, he gave a good argument and claimed that the Islamic state represents Islam in it's purest form. However we are not discussing whether the Islamic state represents Islam in it's purest form, in fact, in round two I conceded this point.
My opponent's last contention was off-topic and borderline irrelevant, regardless of it's accuracy. I have given many examples and sources about the majority of Muslims being peaceful and not a threat to us. I have pointed out that when compared to many major religions, their death toll is comparable. And I have pointed out that ISIS is a small sect out of the 1.2 billion practicing Muslims that is violent.
As pro, it was my opponents responsibility to prove that ISIS represents the majority of Muslims, however he mainly discussed the Quran and Sharia law instead of addressing the topic at hand. I believe my opponent did not effectively refute my arguments about the resolution but instead continued to stray off topic.
Thank you for reading, I urge a negative vote.
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