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Dopamine Blockers are Cruel and Unusual Punishment

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Started: 1/2/2016 Category: People
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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lahunken61

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Those drugs that are called "antispychotic", which are dopamine blockers, are not antipsychotic. They were used in the mental hospital gulags to devastate patients (prisoners) into compliance. Dopamine blockers block dopamine, the neurotransmitter of reward. Even the simple reward of changing position or facial expression goes unrewarded so that the victims writhe in torment, twitching and writhing for the reward that never comes, a writhing called tardive diskinesia. Campral and gabapentin are true antipsychotic drugs, by reducing the percentage of brain use, psychosis being professionally defined as using more than 10% of the brain. This brain percentage fact is being denied today to facilitate several coverups, also protecting the dopamine blocker industry. When most of the mental hospital gulags closed down it left a huge stockpile of unsold dopamine blockers. LSD works by blocking seratonin, the neurotransmitter of the brain's inhibitory neurons, thereby allowing more than 10% brain use, psychosis. Today's "antipsychotic" drugs, dopamine blockers, are "cruel and unusual punishment", forbidden by our Constitution.
Diirez

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I will make some arguments since you made some in your opening argument.

So I will start with your idea that there's a conspiracy about the 10% brain. There is no scientific evidence to support sucha claim. In fact, if you take neuroscience or psychology you will understand it is nearly impossible to only use 10% of your brain. Your brain is very much active at many many points throughout the day. All parts of our brain are used and active, it has to be to be able to do all your unconscious movements and functions (homeostasis, digestion, heart rate...etc) and keep track of your bodily rhythms (circadian..etc.) and keep you conscious and responding to stimuli. Your neurons are constantly firing between all areas of the brain for all kinds of information. Look at my works cited for further reading on why the 1% idea is a myth. [1][2]

Next I want to talk about why we use dopamine antagonists and how they work. Dopamine antagonists are used because typically in psychosis the patients are either producing too much dopamine or overly sensitive to dopamine. Dopamine antagonists will bind to the D2 receptors and prevent dopamine from binding there. This typically will reduce the psychosis symptoms as dopamine can be a cause of psychosis. There are multiple dopamine receptors (D1, D2, D3, D4) so the D2 blocking dopamine drugs do not make it so that way your brain is completely devoid of dopamine. [3][4]

However, the D2 blocking drugs do shut down all D2 receptors, even in the motor movement sections causing diskinesia in some patients. There has been a shift in recent times for a second class of anti-psychotic drugs called atypical anti-psychotics. Atypical anti-psychotics block the D3 receptors not the D2 receptors. D3 is restricted to the limbic system and the cerebral cortex. This second class has been shown to have all the same positive effects of classical anti-psychotics but none of the side effects like diskinesia. [3]

Now let me say, yes using dopamine blocking anti-psychotics against prisoners is cruel and unusual punishment. The reason why they were devoid of all forms of reward and had terrible conditions is because they are normal, healthy functioning individuals. Psychosis is a disorder that is commonly caused (one of the many causes) by dopamine and its receptors. Medication should be used appropriately.

If you're neuroscientifically literate this might help you: [5]

[1] http://www.snopes.com...
[2] http://www.wired.com...
[3] https://web.williams.edu...
[4] http://www.livestrong.com...
[5] http://www.schizophreniaforum.org...
Debate Round No. 1
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Diirez

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Well this is disappointing.
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Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by PhiteWower 1 year ago
PhiteWower
Iahunken61 Is a nutjob, if you look at his posts he most likely is a Schizo himself.
Posted by MagicAintReal 1 year ago
MagicAintReal
The 10% thing is crap.
http://www.snopes.com...
Posted by matt8800 1 year ago
matt8800
Schizophrenia is associated with elevated dopamine levels. Unless there is another medication that can correct dopamine dysfunction, dopamine levels need to be brought down in those people to non-problematic levels. There will never be an ideal situation for those people but not medicating is not really an option.
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