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traviz28
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vardas0antras
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29 Points

Dr. manhattan is the most powerful comic character

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Started: 1/16/2011 Category: Entertainment
Updated: 6 years ago Status: Voting Period
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traviz28

Pro

I can't think of any other comic book character that would be able to defeat or do anything better then what Dr. Manhattan is CAPABLE of. He can instantly be anywhere in and outside the universe, he can create or destroy anything with just a whimper of his hand. His biggest arch nemesis, ozy, tried to destroy him with the same way the dr was created, and that was a seriously failed attempt.
vardas0antras

Con

::GOD::
http://www.comicvine.com...
1. God created everything.
.:. God is beyond everything.
2. Everything except God is a creation.
.:. God is the most powerful character.

::The One Above All::
http://www.comicvine.com...
"The One-Above-All is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent. He is the most powerful being in the Marvel Multiverse. His powers are unlimited, incalculable and immeasurable."

Thank you
Debate Round No. 1
traviz28

Pro

You have linked to two similiar characters which by description share very equal traits, yet nothing conclusive to prove they are any stronger then that of which Dr. manhattan is capable of.
God may have created everything, but the Dr. can create whatever he desires, including life itself as notated at the end of the watchmen series.
God is beyond everything. That is hard to define, but the Dr. once again, percieves time past present and future all at once.

The-one-above-all
Once again, nothing stated is any more then what the great Dr. can be described as. Dr. manhattan has had way more human interaction and done way more for civilization then the few instances the-one-above-all has done.
vardas0antras

Con

::God::
"God may have created everything, but the Dr. can create whatever he desires, including life itself as notated at the end of the watchmen series."
Your point ? A writer can also create a character with great ability, nevertheless, that character is fully at the mercy of the writer.

::The-one-above-all::
"Once again, nothing stated is any more then what the great Dr. can be described as."
Where is Dr.Manhattan described as omnipotent ?
Debate Round No. 2
traviz28

Pro

god and dr manhattan face to face are on equal grounds, they could not destroy each other, they are both undestroyable and on EQUAL grounds.

Anyone on the internet can whip up a webpage or write that someone is omnipotent or not, but can you cite an actual comic that says the-one-above-all is also all those great things, and not just the author describing him out of context of the story?

i think you will find that although both those names are also very powerful characters, in the end, they are all equally powerful and all three of this can do anything they want and all are exempt from extermination.
There are many equals to manhattan, but none that can be more powerful.
vardas0antras

Con

"god and dr manhattan face to face are on equal grounds, they could not destroy each other, they are both undestroyable and on EQUAL grounds." Therefore, Dr.Manhattan isn't one of the most powerful comic characters... You just admitted defeat. Also, the word "undestroyable" doesn't exist.

" but can you cite an actual comic that says the-one-above-all is ***also*** all those great things"
You never provided any examples for Dr. Manhattan nor any other reasons for us to believe that he is omnipotent.

" and not just the author describing him out of context of the story?"
How does the context matter ? If I was described as an 8 year old with blue hair then despite everything else you can be sure that I am an 8 year old with blue hair. Same with omnipotence.

"There are many equals to manhattan, but none that can be more powerful."
1. Your position is that he is "the most powerful" and not that there isn't anyone more powerful.
2. Manhattan isn't omnipotent and if he is, you failed to provide any reasons for us to believe so.

For all the reasons above,
Vote Con
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by traviz28 6 years ago
traviz28
just wanted to see what it does, looks like it gives the con points too. shame on me :)
Posted by Dazedinday 6 years ago
Dazedinday
No traviz. SHAME ON YOU. do NOT vote for yourself.
Posted by CosmicAlfonzo 6 years ago
CosmicAlfonzo
Dinokiller just made my head asplode
Posted by dinokiller 6 years ago
dinokiller
God isnt the strongest, the writer is the strongest!!
Posted by Sieben 6 years ago
Sieben
Pro, why give up? I just told you that god was killed in Preacher, a comic book.
Posted by vardas0antras 6 years ago
vardas0antras
"You cheap bastard. XD"
Im so proud right now
Posted by traviz28 6 years ago
traviz28
My first debate, and now I understand more how it works. thank you for the fun.
Posted by CosmicAlfonzo 6 years ago
CosmicAlfonzo
Vardas0antras is a total @sshole for using God.

You cheap bastard. XD
Posted by TheAtheistAllegiance 6 years ago
TheAtheistAllegiance
Nice Illusive Man avatar.
Posted by vardas0antras 6 years ago
vardas0antras
Too easy to be honest, no offence.
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Reasons for voting decision: Dr manhattan was created thus he can be destroyed God/the one above all were not created thus cannot be destroyed
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