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Dropping the Atom Bomb on Japan was unnecessary to end WWII

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Started: 2/17/2013 Category: Politics
Updated: 4 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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lewis20

Pro

First round is acceptance.
I'll be arguing that dropping the bomb was an unnecessary use of force and not necessary to ending the war in the Pacific.
ConservativePolitico

Con

I accept.

I will argue that the atomic bomb was a necessary use of force in decisively ending the war in the Pacific against the Japanese Empire at the end of World War II.
Debate Round No. 1
lewis20

Pro

Thanks for accepting.
I
The Japanese were prepared to surrender
The Japanese had sent out feelers to negotiate terms of surrender, one being that they be allowed to keep their emperor. These gestures were rejected as America wanted nothing short of complete, unconditional surrender, no matter how many more people were to die.
"Japan's Prime Minister Suzuki spelled out the problem of "unconditional surrender" well for doves and hawks alike when he publicly announced on June 9, 1945, "Should the emperor system be abolished, they [the Japanese people] would lose all reason for existence. 'Unconditional surrender', therefore, means death to the hundred million: it leaves us no choice but to go on fighting to the last man." "1
The real Irony is that the Americans ended up allowing Japan to keep its emperor after surrender.

II
Russia entering the war
The Japanese knew that the Russians invading Manchuria was the end of their war. Russia invaded manchuria the same morning that the second nuclear bomb was dropped. The japanese saw this news, that of the Russians opening another front, as the final straw, not the second nuclear bomb. After all, America had been leveling Japanese cities for weeks through conventional bombs, so to the Japanese command another city was just another city. Whether it was by one plane and one bomb or a hundred planes and a thousand bombs.

III
Top brass, 5 star Generals and Fleet Admirals disagreed with using the bomb
These were the top military commanders in the country and the vast majority of them disagreed with our use of the atomic bomb in the manner in which it used it. Those opposed being
George C. Marshall 2
Douglas MacArthur 3
Dwight D. Eisenhower 4
Henry H. Arnold 5
Ernest J. King 5
Chester W. Nimitz 5
William D Leahy 6

IV
Invasion of the mainland was unnecessary
The universal argument for using the war was the U.S. lives that would be lost during an invasion. This, however, is a false dichotomy.
Ernest J. King, Commander in chief of the U.S Fleet and chief of Naval Operations, said that
"The President in giving his approval for these [atomic] attacks appeared to believe that many thousands of American troops would be killed in invading Japan, and in this he was entirely correct; but King felt, as he had pointed out many times, that the dilemma was an unnecessary one, for had we been willing to wait, the effective naval blockade would, in the course of time, have starved the Japanese into submission through lack of oil, rice, medicines, and other essential materials." 5

Sources
1 http://www.spectacle.org...
2 Microfilm 1108, RG 77, Harrison-Bundy Files, file 100, Notes of the Interim Committee Meeting, Thursday, 31 May 1945, National Archives
3 Norman Cousins, The Pathology of Power, pg. 65, 70-71
4 Ike on Ike, Newsweek, 11/11/63
5 http://www.colorado.edu...
6 William Leahy, I Was There, pg. 441.
ConservativePolitico

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ConservativePolitico forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
lewis20

Pro

I'll drop that round if you still want to continue the debate.
ConservativePolitico

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Debate Round No. 3
lewis20

Pro

That's too bad, call it a tie.
ConservativePolitico

Con

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Debate Round No. 4
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