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jawyer
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imabench
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Due to the current economic crisis, the united kingdom should bail out of the europian union

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 2/20/2012 Category: Economics
Updated: 4 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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jawyer

Pro

I await this challenge to be accepted... -_-
imabench

Con

I Accept this debate and will argue why the UK should not leave the EU

Other than that....

Debate Round No. 1
jawyer

Pro



lol ^ 'its on like donkey kong'

I AWAIT FORTH THE OPPONENT TO STATE HIS REASONS WHY THE UK SHOULD NOT BAILOUT, I WILL THEN WISH TO ARGUE WITH HIM AND SUCCEED IN VICTORY

good luck to you, CON

imabench

Con

Usually the instigator states his arguments first, but I will go ahead and offer reasons why the UK should not leave the EU

1) England benefits greatly from being in the EU so leaving the EU would be economically harmful
2) There are political ramifications should England leave the EU
3) The EU would suffer From England leaving
4) It would give the EU less credibility

- 1 - Being in the EU means that countries, including England, enjoy trading with other EU countries on a larger scale because of the policies within the EU that increases domestic demand within countries in the EU which include limited customs inspections, allowing for easier flow of goods between countries. Basicaly, The UK enjoys less red tape iin regard to doing business with other countries within the EU. The EU also benefits countries within the EU because EU policies also support the freer movement of labor force, goods, services, capital, and people between countries. Business why EU countries allow for increased transparency of taxation regarding commerce since all countries within the EU now have similar tax codes and stuff, and the EU advocates many policies that set a universally low tariff to allow for large scale fair exchange of goods across other EU nations. Such fair trade laws also make possible a wider variety of goods and services available to England from previously untapped markets.

http://www.mfa.gov.hu...
http://econ.economicshelp.org...
http://www.euromove.org.uk...

That being said, the UK should not withdraw from the European Union because the flow of goods and services between the UK and many of its chief trading partners in the rest of Europe would fall due to differentiation in economic policies that could confuse and stall the flow of goods between the UK's borders.

- 2 - Should the UK leave the EU, there would be many ramifications that such a move would cause that impacts more than just economics. One of the biggest parts of the EU lies with how the nations of Europe decide over matters of foreign interest or concern. During the Libya conflict for example the countries within the EU all agreed to impose sanctions against Ghaddafi in a uniform matter faster than that of the UN. Meanwhile countries in the EU were also able to coordinate and give aid to the people and rebels of Libya in a more timely manner than the UN would have done. Should the UK leave the EU though, then the UK would now be left out of the process of making policies over foreign affairs which could cause the UK to make rash and incorrect decisions over a matter that could potentially backfire. The UK could have deployed troops in the war in Libya if they felt it was necessary while the rest of the EU agreed to impose sanctions and provide aid to the rebels and civilians instead. This poor coordination could pose problems to the reactions time of the EU and the UK in foreign affairs which could potentially cost lives should the conflict in question be severe enough.

Should the UK leave the EU then both intentions of the powers of Europe may collide over sensitive situations which could lead to slower reaction time from both sides and potentially cause political friction between the two as they try to go about things their way.

http://ec.europa.eu...
http://www.reuters.com...
http://europa.eu...

3) Just how powerful is the trade organization of the EU? It is unanimous from the CIA World Factbook, the International Monetary Fund, and the World Bank that the EU is more powerful economically than the US or any other trade organization in the world. Within the EU, the UK is the third most powerful economy, second only to France and Germany. So the UK plays a massive role in a massive trade organization, and if UK withdrew from the EU it would not only harm the UK, but it would also harm the remaining countries within the EU.

Over the past few years, the UK has increased trade with other countries in the EU such as Sweden, France, Spain, Ireland, Italy, Belgium, Netherlands, Germany, Switzerland, and Poland by 15% TO EACH COUNTRY. Each country already benefits bu UK trade by 8 billion pounds to 28 billion pounds, or in American money terms, $12 billion to $42 Billion a year, and rising fast. Should the UK leave the EU though it could impact these growth rates and cause economic growth to lag at a time when countries are still trying to pull out of a global recession while also dealing with crippling debt. The UK would be harmed by this too since 8 of its top 10 trading partners are in the EU, if they leave the EU it jeopardizes trade with those countries which could cause massive trade setbacks both in the UK and the EU.

http://www.guardian.co.uk...

The UK should not leave the EU because it would affect the UK very badly and it would affect other nations still within the EU just as bad because leaving the Eu allows the UK to create their own laws and customs regarding products from overseas, and such an action limits trade between the K and other countries.

4) If the UK left the EU, then the loss of the UK's economy would place the EU second as the top trading organization in the world, the US would now be in first place according to the same three sources I stated before. What is worse though is that if the UK leaves the EU, it may convince other countries to do the same, prevent new countries from joining, and give the UK less financial credibility since they are losing their third best contributor. There are movements to have Ireland, Sweden, Greece, Italy, and Spain withdraw from the EU, and if the UK actually goes with it then it may finally convince some other countries to do the same thing, meaning if the UK goes then 2, 3, 4, 5 other countries might also leave.... This would kill the credibility and respect the EU has as a trade organization and as each country left the EU it would only cause more tension trade wise as now each newly independent country gets to set their own laws, causing a progressive breakdown in trade within European countries.

http://www.guardian.co.uk...
http://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com...

The UK should not leave the EU because it may trigger a mass exodus of other countries from the EU causing a breakdown in trade within Europe and a large decrease in power and respect for the EU.

I look forward to the Pro's arguments
Debate Round No. 2
jawyer

Pro

jawyer forfeited this round.
imabench

Con

I extend my arguments Of why it would not be in the best interests of the UK or Europe for the UK to leave the EU
Debate Round No. 3
jawyer

Pro

jawyer forfeited this round.
imabench

Con

extend arguments
Debate Round No. 4
jawyer

Pro

jawyer forfeited this round.
imabench

Con

WTF the Pro was online a day ago.......

Vote Con :P
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by Zetsubou 4 years ago
Zetsubou
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