The Instigator
XDM
Pro (for)
The Contender
ENTPLogic
Con (against)

Ectopic Pregnancy Abortions

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 11/14/2016 Category: Politics
Updated: 2 weeks ago Status: Debating Period
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XDM

Pro

The case in question is Ectopic Pregnancy, a deadly condition in which a fertilized egg implants outside of a woman's uterus and can cause life threatening situation for her. In the rare cases where it is quite literally the child's life or the mother's, who should make the choice of life: the mother or the government?

I will argue that the government should not force a woman to sacrifice her life for her unborn child and that therefor abortions in this case should be legal

Con will attempt to argue that the government should force a woman to sacrifice her life for her unborn child by making Ectopic Pregnancy abortions specifically illegal

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This debate is limited to discourse on Ectopic Pregnancy Abortion only
ENTPLogic

Con

first argument. This should be fun.
Debate Round No. 1
XDM

Pro

First I would like to thank my opponent for accepting and look forward to a civil and constructive debate.

It's fitting that I should first define the term Ectopic Pregnancy:
"Normal pregnancies develop inside a woman's uterus. 'Ectopic' means out of place. In an ectopic pregnancy, a fertilized egg attaches to the wrong place in a woman's body. In most ectopic pregnancies, the egg attaches to the woman's fallopian tube ... Ectopic pregnancies are serious. They can cause internal bleeding, infection, and death.
Ectopic pregnancies are not very common. They happen in about 2 out of every 100 pregnancies. However, they have become much more common in the past 30 years"
https://www.plannedparenthood.org...

So it is an abnormality that can be life threatening. More information on the risks of ecoptic prgnancy:
"Ectopic pregnancy is the most common cause of pregnancy-related deaths in the first trimester of pregnancy. There are more than 40 deaths per year in the United States. It accounts for about 10% of all pregnancy-related deaths"
http://www.obgyn.net...

So we have before us the "most common cause of pregnancy-related deaths in the first trimester of pregnancy". The question and purpose of this debate is to examine the legal reasons to allow abortions during cases where the mother must either sacrifice her life or abort her pregnancy. My opponent must show that an abortion IN THIS CASE should be illegal based on the laws of the US and I must show that an abortion in this case should be legal based on the same.

My main argument will stand on the Due Process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment of the United States Constitution which states that "No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
https://www.law.cornell.edu...

The main point here is that only states can make abortion illegal (tenth amendment) but what they cannot do is infringe upon the boons of the Fourteenth, namely: "nor shall any state deprive any person of life". To make abortion illegal in all cases, but especially in life threatening Ectopic Pregnancy cases is to deprive the pregnant woman of life, and this is fundamentally unconstitutional.

The Fourteenth Amendment also secures that that state will not deprive any person of liberty, in this case the liberty to choose the life of the unborn or that of the mothers own life. It is a terrible and tragic situation to begin with, but the laws support the choice of the mother and deny the states the ability to legally force the mother to sacrifice her life.

In order to support my claim that Fourteenth Amendment's "right to liberty" does or could mean the right to choose to have an abortion in this case:

"In a Constitution for a free people, there can be no doubt that the meaning of "liberty' must be broad indeed." Board of Regents v. Roth, 408 U.S. 564, 572. The Constitution nowhere mentions a specific right of personal choice in matters of marriage and family life, but the "liberty" protected by the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment covers more than those freedoms explicitly named in the Bill of Rights" and "The full scope of the liberty guaranteed by the Due Process Clause cannot be found in or limited by the precise terms of the specific guarantees elsewhere provided in the Constitution. This "liberty" is not a series of isolated points pricked out in terms of the taking of property; the freedom of speech, press, and religion; the right to keep and bear arms; the freedom from unreasonable searches and seizures; and so on. It is a rational continuum which, broadly speaking, includes a freedom from all substantial arbitrary impositions and purposeless restraints . . . "
https://www.law.cornell.edu...
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Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by XDM 2 weeks ago
XDM
I agree that most people would think that way once they are presented with the facts but I know way too many people that still think the mother should be forced to just basically kill herself.
Posted by Capitalistslave 2 weeks ago
Capitalistslave
I don't feel like you will get someone serious to accept your debate. I feel like a vast majority of people, and even a vast majority of conservatives, think abortion should be legal in this specific case you listed.
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