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Education changes

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 9/18/2014 Category: Education
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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moeez_malik

Con

The Education of America should change up. The reason I say this is because some courses in High school. Are pointless because they don't help us at all in the future such as Geometry, chemistry, statistics, Earth Science, Algebra, and more. We should not be required to take these type of classes unless we want to be a engineer, or a scientist. We should be taking classes we need to becomes whatever that is we want to be.
MonetaryOffset

Pro

I accept.

The resolution is not particularly clear; normally we would default to the title of the debate, in which case I would be arguing in favor of changing the education system in some way -- if that were the case, Con has clearly taken the wrong side of the debate and should lose as a result. However, I'm going to assume this was merely an error on his part. His opening case is a proposition for how he intends to change the education system, so I'm going to respond to that. Note that, in doing so, he takes on the full burden of proof by virtue of instigating and affirming.

He starts by claiming that courses such as Geometry, Chemistry, and Statistics are utterly. However, he fails to back up this claim at all. Statistics, for one, are used every day of our lives; we use statistics to make decisions as to what to consume, for instance. You don't need to be a statistician to benefit from a knowledge of statistics. Any form of chemistry has real-world applications as well in the same way that mathematics do. I could list all of these applications, but this would blur the central benefit of taking these courses: in high school, most people haven't the slightest idea of what they want to do with their lives. How will you know by the time you're in high school that you want to be an engineer? Some may, but most others will not. They'll change their minds, their majors, and possibly their jobs later on -- it's simply a fact of life for people to want to try new things. Taking courses that you perhaps are not interested in at the time -- note that you can develop an interest in said classes over time, in the same way I did for economics, history, and philosophy -- is simply a way to learn, grow and see the world through new perspectives, and you may in the process discern your passion. Even if you end up not liking them, you've narrowed down possible career paths. In order to figure out what you like, you need to figure out what you don't like, especially when choosing from a broad range of possible careers.

Next, Con mistakenly insinuates that taking these classes prevents us from taking classes in subjects we're interested in. This is simply not true. You can take varying courses concurrently, specializing in subjects you find interesting and pertinent to your future. But this doesn't negate the point that you should, especially at a young age, be exposed to a wide range of disciplines.
Debate Round No. 1
moeez_malik

Con

moeez_malik forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
moeez_malik

Con

moeez_malik forfeited this round.
MonetaryOffset

Pro

Extend.

Vote Pro.
Debate Round No. 3
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Reasons for voting decision: Conduct - Pro. Con forfeited which is rarely acceptable behavior in any debate setting. S&G - Pro. Con made a few grammatical errors in R1, this is evident with the period in-between High school and Are. Arguments - Pro. Con failed to provide any rebuttals which left Pro's arguments standing unchallenged. Sources - Tie. Neither utilized sources throughout this debate.
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