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Edward Snowden is a traitor.

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Started: 3/8/2014 Category: Miscellaneous
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Debate Round No. 1


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He gave helpful information to terrorists

"What Snowden is doing and, to an extent, what the newspapers are doing in helping him do what he is doing, is frankly signalling to people who mean to do us harm how to evade and avoid intelligence and surveillance and other techniques," -Prime Minister David Cameron

"He collected an apparently unknowable amount of information (unknowable to both him and the NSA) and dumped it on the doorsteps of largely foreign newspapers. As he no doubt fully understood, most of these documents contained information pertaining to how the NSA collected intelligence on legitimate foreign targets, not Americans whatsoever."

Rep. Dutch Ruppersberger of Maryland, the Intelligence Committee’s ranking member, said terrorist groups have already started changing their habits as a result of the leaks, making them that much harder to fight.

“Snowden handed terrorists a copy of our country’s playbook, and now we are paying the price, which this report confirms,” Ruppersberger said. “His actions aligned him with our enemy. We have begun to see terrorists changing their methods because of the leaks, and this report indicates that the harm to our country and its citizens will only continue to endure.”

"What we've seen the last six to eight months is an awareness by these [terrorist] groups...of our ability to monitor communications and specific instances where they've changed the ways in which they communicate to avoid being surveilled or being subject to our surveillance tactics," said NCTC Director Matthew Olsen.

CIA Director John Brennan said his spies have determined that al Qaeda terrorists "are going to school" with each classified document provided to journalists by Snowden. Brennan said they are aiding al Qaeda with "their counter-intelligence program" because all al Qaeda members have to do is "pick up the papers sometimes or do some Google searches for what has been disclosed and leaked."

Snowden has aided terrorists by showing them how the NSA collects data, allowing the harmful people to avoid being surveilled.

For example, if I tell you I do not lock my doors between 6-8 and you wanted to rob me. You would come at that time between 6-8 now that you have that information. This is the same with terrorists. If they are being told where and how the NSA collects data ,trying to catch them, they will avoid these programs and manipulate the information to the best of their advantage. And that harms to US because it makes it even more difficult to detect when an attack is going to occur.

Not only has he aided terrorists with information, but he has aided our enemies with more hate. Now that they know we were spying on them, this makes them even more angry and makes them want to harm us more as well.
Snowden was a traitor because he aided terrorists.
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He betrayed the government (particularily everyone involved with the NSA)
Snowden signed an oath, as a condition of his employment as an NSA contractor, not to disclose classified information.
Therefore, he is a traitor to the government for breaking this oath.

He harmed our relationships with Allies

“Snowden first leaked the NSA documents in June 2013. Some documents included information on American espionage efforts against enemies. Others revealed how the NSA was spying on American citizens, which raised the ire of civil rights advocates. Other documents focused on how the U.S. spied on its allies, like German Chancellor Angela Merkel.”

When Snowden leaked the information, it didn’t just make our enemies hate us even more but it harmed our much needed relationships with our Allies. This leak, ruined the foundation on which we built our allies trust.
He is a traitor because the files he leaked damaged the United States important relationships with other countries.

The way Snowden leaked the information, made him a traitor in itself.

He basically took all the files and dumped them on newspapers doorsteps. If his intentions were for the government to reform the NSA activities so they protected our civil liberties more, he would have stayed at the agency longer and collected more information and carefully presented it to the people who do the changes, not the whole nation.

“making it public is worse, because then you have 190 governments that learn America’s secrets.” -John Bolton, former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations.

If Snowden leaked the information less recklessly, maybe he would not be considered as much of a traitor, but we have to look at the facts. The way he released the information was not to help the people of the US, Snowden is a traitor because of the way he leaked the data.

“When the time came for him to flee, as a coward would, he went to Hong Kong where he exposed the information to the press, if not to the communist Chinese,” Gilmore said.

“Then he went to Russia, where he shared the information with a thug – Putin.”

“I do consider him a traitor. He has taken vital secrets of the United States, undoubtedly given some to China, given some to Russia — Russia and China may have them all now for what we know,” -John Bolton, former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations

Bottom line is Snowden put everyone in the United States in danger and that makes him a traitor.

“Snowden handed over great insight to our adversaries, endangering each and every American. Make no mistake, Snowden is no patriot, and there is no way to excuse the irreparable harm he caused to America and her allies and continues to cause.

"What I do want to speak to as the nation's senior intelligence officer is the profound damage that his disclosures have caused and continue to cause. As a consequence, the nation is less safe and its people less secure," -Clapper, a retired Air Force lieutenant general.

Snowden’s actions are likely to have lethal consequences for our troops in the field,”

“This report confirms my greatest fears — Snowden’s real acts of betrayal place America’s military men and women at greater risk,” -House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers

In conclusion, Edward Snowden is a traitor because....

-He leaked the information in a reckless way
-He aided terrorists with helpful information
-Harmed our relationship with our Allies
-And overall just put the United States in more danger

Want to know more people who agree with me that Edward Snowden is a traitor?

President Obama condemned the NSA leaks, claiming that Snowden is no “patriot.” Agreeing with the president are Secretary of State John Kerry, House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, and Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif. Strange bedfellows!
-House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers
-John Bolton, former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations
-Clapper, a retired Air Force lieutenant general.
-Michael Hayden, former director of the National Security Agency
They have all called Edward Snowden a traitor.
I'm sure there is more, but those are pretty important people. I mean even the Prez is on there.

and in case you did not figure it out....

you want sources? I got some sources!! If you want more, just copy and paste the quotes into google and you will find the websites.

Debate Round No. 2


Dr.Intellegent forfeited this round.


My opponent possibly ran out of time?
Since we have 2 more rounds hopefully he'll refute and build a case in those!
Looking forward to it.
Debate Round No. 3


Dr.Intellegent forfeited this round.


Darn! Vote pro!
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by giraffelover 2 years ago
Well that was an embarrassing debate for Snowden.
Posted by Dr.Intellegent 2 years ago
u.s as a whole
Posted by tswizzle36 2 years ago
are you defending that he is a traitor in the sense that he betrayed the government or that he betrayed the US as a whole
Posted by Dr.Intellegent 2 years ago
Jevinigh, i love your opinion im just not sure i understand
Posted by Jevinigh 2 years ago
If he is to be called a traitor, than the question must be asked. Whom did he betray? If you are to call him a traitor than I pressure you to draw the threshold between the interests of the Standing government and the interests of the people it is suppose to serve. The very nature of what can be called a traitor must be challenged in this context.
Posted by ax123man 2 years ago
If he is "most definitely a traitor", by what definition do you conclude that? If you use some definition that uses "harm to our country" then you have to prove that. I don't think the answer is necessarily clear. I think it's reasonable, or at least debatable, to state something like this: "The trend in the U.S. toward tyranny and a lose of freedom has reduced our ability to compete economically. Regulations, tariffs and trade barriers are detrimental to GDP growth. The size of our federal govt. has grown far beyond what is necessary. In fact, it could be said that the same forefathers who found this country would find this federal government worse than the Brits in the 18th century. Given that, then it can argued that Snowden's actions have helped our country, not hurt it."

Now we can debate this all day, but the only way to justify your "most definitely a traitor" is to start with the assumption that the purpose of a federal government IS to BECOME tyrannical, so that anyone who defies that goal is a traitor.
Posted by Romanii 2 years ago
I don't think there is any debate as to whether or not he's a traitor. He most definitely is by the definition of "traitor". The debate should be about if what he did was justified or not.
Posted by Romanii 2 years ago
Please tell me you purposely misspelled "Intelligent" as "Intellegent" in your username....
Posted by ax123man 2 years ago
Here's the problem with this debate. First, you have no definition of "traitor". A simple one, in context of Snowden, would be "a person who betrays his country". But this is subjective. Some members of this country side with Snowden and some do not. We can only say Snowden has betrayed some members of his country. That is, unless you want to say our President represents this country, so Snowden has betrayed his country because he has betrayed Obama. Or would you say that if the majority of a countries members are against Snowden, then he is a traitor? The "United States" is a land mass defined by political borders. That land mass doesn't have an opinion about Snowden.
Posted by Pellius 2 years ago
Yes he is a traitor. He is a fame-hungry little twerp who saw his chance to be on the world news, so he leaked some shady looking NSA stuff and now his face is all over the front pages. He's painted as some kind of freedom-fighter. Well, he got what he wanted, didn't he? He's a conceited dildo like Julian Assange.

But whoever said fame-hungry pricks are bad for the world?
America thinks and knows that it owns the world, and the NSA is getting cheekier by the day.

Nothing Noam Chomsky couldn't guess.
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