Edward Snowden is a traitor.
Voting Style: | Open | Point System: | 7 Point | ||
Started: | 3/8/2014 | Category: | Miscellaneous | ||
Updated: | 4 years ago | Status: | Post Voting Period | ||
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He gave helpful information to terrorists "What Snowden is doing and, to an extent, what the newspapers are doing in helping him do what he is doing, is frankly signalling to people who mean to do us harm how to evade and avoid intelligence and surveillance and other techniques," -Prime Minister David Cameron "He collected an apparently unknowable amount of information (unknowable to both him and the NSA) and dumped it on the doorsteps of largely foreign newspapers. As he no doubt fully understood, most of these documents contained information pertaining to how the NSA collected intelligence on legitimate foreign targets, not Americans whatsoever." Rep. Dutch Ruppersberger of Maryland, the Intelligence Committee’s ranking member, said terrorist groups have already started changing their habits as a result of the leaks, making them that much harder to fight. “Snowden handed terrorists a copy of our country’s playbook, and now we are paying the price, which this report confirms,” Ruppersberger said. “His actions aligned him with our enemy. We have begun to see terrorists changing their methods because of the leaks, and this report indicates that the harm to our country and its citizens will only continue to endure.” "What we've seen the last six to eight months is an awareness by these [terrorist] groups...of our ability to monitor communications and specific instances where they've changed the ways in which they communicate to avoid being surveilled or being subject to our surveillance tactics," said NCTC Director Matthew Olsen. CIA Director John Brennan said his spies have determined that al Qaeda terrorists "are going to school" with each classified document provided to journalists by Snowden. Brennan said they are aiding al Qaeda with "their counter-intelligence program" because all al Qaeda members have to do is "pick up the papers sometimes or do some Google searches for what has been disclosed and leaked." Snowden has aided terrorists by showing them how the NSA collects data, allowing the harmful people to avoid being surveilled. For example, if I tell you I do not lock my doors between 6-8 and you wanted to rob me. You would come at that time between 6-8 now that you have that information. This is the same with terrorists. If they are being told where and how the NSA collects data ,trying to catch them, they will avoid these programs and manipulate the information to the best of their advantage. And that harms to US because it makes it even more difficult to detect when an attack is going to occur. Not only has he aided terrorists with information, but he has aided our enemies with more hate. Now that they know we were spying on them, this makes them even more angry and makes them want to harm us more as well.
“Snowden first leaked the NSA documents in June 2013. Some documents included information on American espionage efforts against enemies. Others revealed how the NSA was spying on American citizens, which raised the ire of civil rights advocates. Other documents focused on how the U.S. spied on its allies, like German Chancellor Angela Merkel.” When Snowden leaked the information, it didn’t just make our enemies hate us even more but it harmed our much needed relationships with our Allies. This leak, ruined the foundation on which we built our allies trust. The way Snowden leaked the information, made him a traitor in itself. He basically took all the files and dumped them on newspapers doorsteps. If his intentions were for the government to reform the NSA activities so they protected our civil liberties more, he would have stayed at the agency longer and collected more information and carefully presented it to the people who do the changes, not the whole nation. “making it public is worse, because then you have 190 governments that learn America’s secrets.” -John Bolton, former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations. If Snowden leaked the information less recklessly, maybe he would not be considered as much of a traitor, but we have to look at the facts. The way he released the information was not to help the people of the US, Snowden is a traitor because of the way he leaked the data. “When the time came for him to flee, as a coward would, he went to Hong Kong where he exposed the information to the press, if not to the communist Chinese,” Gilmore said. “Then he went to Russia, where he shared the information with a thug – Putin.” “I do consider him a traitor. He has taken vital secrets of the United States, undoubtedly given some to China, given some to Russia — Russia and China may have them all now for what we know,” -John Bolton, former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations
Bottom line is Snowden put everyone in the United States in danger and that makes him a traitor. “Snowden handed over great insight to our adversaries, endangering each and every American. Make no mistake, Snowden is no patriot, and there is no way to excuse the irreparable harm he caused to America and her allies and continues to cause.” "What I do want to speak to as the nation's senior intelligence officer is the profound damage that his disclosures have caused and continue to cause. As a consequence, the nation is less safe and its people less secure," -Clapper, a retired Air Force lieutenant general. “Snowden’s actions are likely to have lethal consequences for our troops in the field,” “This report confirms my greatest fears — Snowden’s real acts of betrayal place America’s military men and women at greater risk,” -House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers -He leaked the information in a reckless way President Obama condemned the NSA leaks, claiming that Snowden is no “patriot.” Agreeing with the president are Secretary of State John Kerry, House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, and Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif. Strange bedfellows! and in case you did not figure it out.... you want sources? I got some sources!! If you want more, just copy and paste the quotes into google and you will find the websites. |
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If he is "most definitely a traitor", by what definition do you conclude that? If you use some definition that uses "harm to our country" then you have to prove that. I don't think the answer is necessarily clear. I think it's reasonable, or at least debatable, to state something like this: "The trend in the U.S. toward tyranny and a lose of freedom has reduced our ability to compete economically. Regulations, tariffs and trade barriers are detrimental to GDP growth. The size of our federal govt. has grown far beyond what is necessary. In fact, it could be said that the same forefathers who found this country would find this federal government worse than the Brits in the 18th century. Given that, then it can argued that Snowden's actions have helped our country, not hurt it."
Now we can debate this all day, but the only way to justify your "most definitely a traitor" is to start with the assumption that the purpose of a federal government IS to BECOME tyrannical, so that anyone who defies that goal is a traitor.