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Slowlow24
Pro (for)
The Contender
lmorrow
Con (against)

Electoral Collage

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Started: 4/15/2017 Category: Politics
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Debating Period
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Slowlow24

Pro

First round for acceptance. I will be arguing that though there may need to be changes we don't need to get rid of it entirely. My opponent will be arguing why we need to get rid of the Electoral Collage and (if they want, though I won't mind if they don't) what we need to replace it with.
Debate Round No. 1
Slowlow24

Pro

First Thank you for accepting the debate. Now the first reason that we shouldn't get rid of the Electoral College is that we're not a direct democracy and we were never ment to be one. We are a Constitutional Republic. Second with us not being a direct democracy the Electoral College shows who the country wants as President not the people using the most recent election as an example if you look at a map of which States voted for which candidate you can see that most of the country,not people, voted for Trump. We have a big and diverse country and different places in the country have very different needs so I think it's better to pick the candidate best for the country.
lmorrow

Con

Here are my opening arguments for why the electoral college should be abolished

1. The electoral college gives significantly more power to some states than others. For example the population of new york state is about 19.75 million people and the state has 29 electoral college votes which is about 680 000 people per electoral vote. But wyoming on the other hand has 584 000 people and 3 electoral college votes which is about 195 000 people per electoral vote. Because of this the vote of a person living in wyoming is worth about the same as the votes of 3 people in new york state. This is inherently unfair in that some people have significantly more voting power than others.

2. The electoral college often leads to elections where the person with the most votes losses. This is inherently undemocratic in that it allows for governments that are not in the interests of the majority of the people to take office.

3. The electoral college makes it very difficult for 3rd parties and independents to get any power in the government, and nearly impossible for them to win elections. In the electoral college for a party to get any votes the party must get at least half of a state. Because of this party's with less than about 15% support have almost no chance to win a state. This encourages people to vote against their own interests because the party they really support has no chance of winning.

I propose that to replace the electoral college a open list semi parliamentary system be put in place were voters chose a political party then chose in which order the party members running are elected. The votes are counted and the person chosen most for each place position. The person who is elected to have the highest priority in the party with the most votes gets the presidency. The rest of people running are distributed based off of the amount of votes their party gets into the senate and house.
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Posted by Unitomic 1 year ago
Unitomic
I would start by forcing the opponent to first show that direct democracy is a good option. It shouldn't be hard to attack the nature of populism.
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