The Instigator
XxTraceXXPedersonxX
Pro (for)
Losing
5 Points
The Contender
PetrieZac
Con (against)
Winning
15 Points

Eminem is the best artist to ever exist

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after 6 votes the winner is...
PetrieZac
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 12/12/2012 Category: Entertainment
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Debate Rounds (2)
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XxTraceXXPedersonxX

Pro

Eminem Is the best artist
PetrieZac

Con

Michael Jackson is the best artist of all time.

Regards and best of luck.
Debate Round No. 1
XxTraceXXPedersonxX

Pro

1. Eminem has been in the music industry for almost half the time than Michael Jackson and still had sold 380 million albums worldwide, his music is lyrically superior to Michael Jacksons. Eminem who has been persecuted to be a homophobic and someone who hates kids. He has won multiple awards regardless of not producing an album for 4 years.

2. Not only does Eminem make incredible songs but he also won a grammy for producing and staring in the movie "8 Mile"
unlike Michael Jackson Eminem is more than a one trick pony he is a jack of all trades.

3. For someone who has never passed the 9th grade he is a lyrical genius and is far superior to Michael Jackson

Pre counter argument

1. I know that Michael Jackson has sold more albums and won more awards but Michel Jackson has been in the music industry a lot longer then Eminem.

2. Also with regards to my 3rd argument for someone who has been undereducated his lyrics are early superior than Michael Jackson, also it is inspiring to people that think that they don't have a shot at being great when they have been threw such a hard life

Good luck
PetrieZac

Con

First I will counter all of my opponents points, then make my points.

1. Time is not revenant in this topic. It is who is the best artist period. Michael Jackson has sold over 2 times the amount of records that Eminem has sold(Stated by my opponent). Please don't get me wrong Eminem is a great artist, but Michael Jackson is the best. Michael Jackson has been awarded 18 Grammys alone.

2. Michael Jackson is the "Jack of all Trades" he shaped not only the music industry, the music video industry, and fashion.

3. Finally the education of the artist is irrelevant to this topic.

Michael Jackson has revolutionized the music industry with his amazing songs, interesting music videos, and dance moves. Jackson is referred to as the "King of Pop" witch says it all in itself.

With over 750 million records sold, Michael Jackson changed the industry wether you like it or not.
Debate Round No. 2
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Vote Placed by Hemanth_Nambiar 3 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Read the debate. That should be self explanatory.
Vote Placed by drafterman 3 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: The best argument was regarding the impact on music in general, made in favor of Michael Jackson (having essentially become synonymous with "Pop" which the same can't, and wasn't, said of Eminem for Rap).
Vote Placed by socialpinko 3 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Arguments were weak from both sides. However, Con's counters were even more unsatisfying than Pro's arguments. The "time" point which Con downsized was actually relevant considering that Eminem's work is magnified given the short amount of time in which it has been accomplished. The "jack of all trades" argument was tied given MJ's work in other fields. Though personally, film seems more accomplished than fashion. Whatevs on that though. The educational point was also successfully refuted by Con. Whether Eminem has a PhD or a middle schooler's education, it doesn't change the content of his music. Arguments ultimately go to Pro as Con failed to offer a case of his own. In R1 he proposed that Michael Jackson was the greatest musical artist. As such he's tasked with defending this thesis. However, Con focused all his energy simply on refuting Pro's case. With only one round of argumentation, really any argument would have been sufficient since Pro wouldn't have been able to respond.
Vote Placed by The_Master_Riddler 3 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Con was more convincing
Vote Placed by htennis 3 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: PRO doesn't explain why a troubled childhood makes one a better artist.
Vote Placed by johnlubba 3 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Con Rebuttled Pro Accuratley stating that Jackson is more than a one trick pony and held influenced over a wide range of pop and fashion culture, Also Pro's is rebuttaled that education is irrelevant in the debate, and qite rightly so. Michael Jackson even has more album sales. The only argument Pro has, is that Eminem has won his own Grammy. But Michalel has 18. No sources offered by con to validate this claim of 18 Grammys. So pro gets a source point for offering some additional evidence. Michael Wins.