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STALIN
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The Contender
CPUSA99
Con (against)
Losing
1 Points

Empire Total War is better than Napoleon Total War (the computer games)

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STALIN
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 11/18/2013 Category: Games
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Debate Rounds (4)
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STALIN

Pro

Round one acceptance only
CPUSA99

Con

I am here to defend the greatest Total war game out there.
Debate Round No. 1
STALIN

Pro

Napoleon Total War is definitely a worse game than Empire Total War for several reasons.

-You can only play as five countries in Napoleon Total War.

-The rebellions are too large.

-The map is limited to only Europe.

-The AI does little. For example, I play as Prussia and I'm at war with France. Austria, Britain, and Russia don't do anything. Its basically a 1v1.

There are 11 playable countries in ETW:
Austria
France
Spain
Ottoman Empire
Mahratta Confederation
Netherlands
Prussia
Russia
The Republic of Poland
Sweden
Great Britain
CPUSA99

Con

Napoleon Total War is a far superior game. My main reason is graphics. I know a lot of people prefer game play over graphics, which I do care about game play a lot I love game's with good graphics. In my opinion game play for multilayer is better on napoleon than empire because empire to my knowledge when ever i played only had battles no CO-OP campaign. I like the fact that you can play CO-OP on napoleon and that is my main argument for this round i think that napoleon wins by graphics and multilayer. With single player mode only being able to play as france or coalition is not fun after a while, but you could use mods if you really want to play as someone else.
Debate Round No. 2
STALIN

Pro

NTW = Napoleon Total War
ETW = Empire Total War

So Con claims that because NTW has better graphics which I would agree with. NTW does have slightly better graphics. However I would put gameplay over graphics. NTW has huge rebellions. Entire armies spawn in one city. In addition, the map is limited to Europe while ETW gives a feeling of building a global empire. The AI in NTW does little. In ETW, there are rebellions also but they are more realistic in size. Napoleon Total War gives an unrealistic sense of a Napoleonic war while ETW gives a realistic sense of diplomacy. In Napoleon Total War, you can have Austria attacking Russia. In addition, the AI does nothing. For example, one time I was playing as Prussia and I was at war with France. Britain, Russia, and Austria did nothing to help me even though they were also at war with France.
CPUSA99

Con

You bring up good points but still there are plenty of easy to use modes to fix rebel problems and make ai better and to make more countries. And like i said before it has a far better multilayer game system.
Debate Round No. 3
STALIN

Pro

Setting the level of the game "easy" makes the rebellions easier to defeat but not smaller. The multiplayer system is slightly better, but the only main difference is that in NTW you can play multiplayer campaigns.

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CPUSA99

Con

i conclude that NTW is better becuase graphics, gameplay can be improved by mods, countries added with mods, and multiplayer campaign.
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by STALIN 3 years ago
STALIN
Please vote for me:D
Posted by michael90000 3 years ago
michael90000
I was laughing at the easy mode towards the end of this debate.
Posted by STALIN 3 years ago
STALIN
Meh...
Posted by Technicallyderped 3 years ago
Technicallyderped
Stronghold beats both of them. :3
Posted by STALIN 3 years ago
STALIN
I suppose that is because your computer is not good enough. I did not really encounter that.
Posted by calculatedr1sk 3 years ago
calculatedr1sk
LOVED Empire. The only thing that irritated me was that it would go very slow for me even on lowest graphics settings during a siege once a wall has fallen and there was smoke. Anyone else encounter that?
Posted by STALIN 3 years ago
STALIN
I would agree with you donald.
Posted by donald.keller 3 years ago
donald.keller
Thank god I'm not the only one that thinks that! And I think the only problem Empire had was missing the Roman Senate / Pope / Emperor system where a central group gave out goals, and you could go with or against them and earn a rank among your peers... But aside from that, it was flawless.
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro uses sources and proves that ETW is better.