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End Discrimination Against Women in Advertising

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Started: 10/31/2012 Category: Politics
Updated: 4 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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TheBloodyScot

Pro

Women are discriminated in advertising because men are capable of being publicly broadcasted with a bare chest, but it is considered wrong and probably illegal in most parts of the United States.
Jaret_Frame

Con

I suppose I'll try this one. You didn't seem to be clear as to what this debate is about, so I suppose I'll start by saying that you have presented no proof to show any discrimination against women in any advertisement. It is technically Public indecency which is illegal because it is necessary to maintain public order. It was decided in the US Supreme Court case, Barnes v. Glen Theater, that "States have the authority and right to regulate and/or ban nudity, as it is in the interests of both the government and society to preserve morality by statute. Nudity is not protected under the first amendment, nor expressive content.", and thus legally it is not allowed, except for the exception feeding (Source: http://www.gpo.gov...)

Even in the case that it is not done, or received in a sexual manner it is still considered offensive behavior. Men not being persecuted for not wearing a shirt in public is generally credited to men working as farmers and needing to cool themselves. Also, in general, male breasts are not typically assassinated with sexual/explicit content.

I'll rest my case by stating that even thought equality is suppose to be kept as close as possible, it is necessary to maintain order, and tranquility first .

Thanks for giving opportunity to have my first debate. Hopefully I won't/did do too bad.
Debate Round No. 1
TheBloodyScot

Pro

To argue that men without shirts on are more explict in nature than women without their shirts on is false.
http://pinterest.com... shows many advertisement using the allure of bare chested men. Women being bare chested is, by law, more sexual than women, but I am arguing that women are as attracted to bare chested men as men are attracted to bare chested women. Why should women have to cover up their chest when men don't? Or don't men have to cover up their chest when women do?

The debate isn't about whether or not it is legal. Until 1920, women didn't have the right to vote, but until then, most people thought women were incapable of voting effectively. Nowadays, looking back at the situation, we made the right decision. What I am saying is that you may find my argument absurd, but back in the 1800's people saw womens' right to vote absurd. I am arguing that people are denying the equality of bare chested men to bare chested women.
Jaret_Frame

Con

As you said it is illegal, and is not allowed in advertisement because it is "considered wrong and probably illegal in most parts of the United States." If something is considered wrong (especially on a moral standpoint), it is suppose to be illegal. Since it is considered to be "legislatively immoral", and is also considered, in general, wrong by most of the general public, it is not discrimination, but rather wrong within the extent of law. Since the laws made without bias, no one is being discriminated against. The laws preventing women from appearing with exposed breast were put into place to protect others and to stop public indecency, disorderly conduct, and wide spread explicit content, therefore it is not discriminatory, but rather to uphold what they are suppose to stop. Keep in mind that one's freedom of speech can be suppressed if it endangers, in the same way women can't show that as it could cause harm to others, namely children. In society it is also considered a social taboo by the general population. Children should not be exposed to sexual content until adolescence. Exposing them to it earlier can stunt emotion and mental development along with other aspects of life

I rest this round by stating that you are merely asking questions, not actually defending your resolution.

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Debate Round No. 2
TheBloodyScot

Pro

You claim that it can cause harm to children, yet you show not proof. I will neglect this "evidence" until you can prove it. I am arguing that even though it is conidered wrong, it is still discrimotory. I am arguing that it shouldn't be wrong. How is a child seeing a woman's breasts as opposed to a man's going to cause problems? I see it as solving the problem that men see boobs as toys because of their mystery. Hiding them only separate the men and women if they were allowed to show boobs, they wouldn't be so erotic because they would be more commonplace.
Jaret_Frame

Con

Jaret_Frame forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by TheBloodyScot 4 years ago
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Mostly, it is sort of a troll argument.
Posted by ax123man 4 years ago
ax123man
I'd potentially like to debate this but the resolution is too fuzzy. Are you arguing that consumers should relax their moral standards or that laws should be changed?
Posted by Spotchman 4 years ago
Spotchman
I'm considering taking this debate. My argument would mostly be that since many people find a woman's bare chest to be obscene (even though they shouldn't) people should be protected from publicly seeing that. But, of course, you're arguing that people shouldn't find that to be offensive, not that it should be made legal in spite of the people who find it offensive.
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