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Essential Services Should be Allowed to Strike

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Started: 8/26/2012 Category: News
Updated: 5 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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R1 is acceptance. R2 - 4 are arguments and conclusions.


Essential Services - a class of occupation that has limitations in regard to labour actions. For this debate, essential services will be:

The polic sector
The firefighting sector
The hospital sector
Water supply services
Electricity supply services
Armed forces
Prison services
Air traffic control services
The telephone service
Those providing food and cleaning schools for kids [1]

Strike - a concerted stopping of work or withdrawal of workers services as to compel an employer to acede to workers demands or in protest of terms or conditions imposed by the employer [2]

If my opponent wishes to add any services to this list, IT MUST BE POSTED IN R1.

No semantics, no trolling, and no new arguments may be posted by my opponent in the final Round.

I look forward to an entertaining and interesting debate!



I accept, but I wish to amend the defintion of Essential services to "a class of occupation deemed essential by the ILO", which is accessible in article 585 of "Digest of decisions and principles of the Freedom of Association Committee of the Governing Body of the ILO" (

Also, "should be" implies this is not a factual debate: current legislation banning strikes, for example, is not an argument in itself.
Debate Round No. 1


I made a mistake in my restrictions when instigating this debate. I kindly ask for Stephen_Hawkings to allow Airmax to delete this debate.

Thank you.


Trusting that my opponent has asked medic to delete this, I'll wait and ask for a vote tie.
Debate Round No. 2


Medic? Isn't the admin Airmax?


Yes, but I'm an idiot and keep mixing everyone up -_-
Debate Round No. 3


Is Medic an admin?


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Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by ishallannoyyo 5 years ago
I put it so you could only have 4 - 10 debates to accept. It must not have worked, can we delete this debate please?
Posted by ishallannoyyo 5 years ago
I put it so you could only have 4 - 10 debates to accept. It must not have worked, can we delete this debate please?
Posted by Stephen_Hawkins 5 years ago
I did, that's what let me accept the debate. Why? What characteristics did you put on the debate's restrictions?
Posted by ishallannoyyo 5 years ago
How did you accept? You didn't fit my criteria?
Posted by Stephen_Hawkins 5 years ago
"No semantics" essentially means (and you should say instead because this site somehow uses one in place of the other) "Take the resolution for what it is meant". I'm taking the debate, but if you get hung up over the fact that I debate this with a reasonable level of rationalisation over the meanings of words, then that wouldn't be my problem. For example, if I take the debate and you say "you're using semantics because you're saying the strikes only last for a day and that's not what I meant", then that wouldn't be my problem nor my fault.

It just means "don't do what imabench did and think DNA means demonized nubian antelopes".
Posted by RationalMadman 5 years ago
strike for what purpose?
Posted by ishallannoyyo 5 years ago
That's not what no semantics means, it means no twisting the words in the resolution. e.g. in a race 500 m is greater than 200 m. Semantics would be saying "race" wasn't properly defined and I am defining it as "race" as in biological species. Thus, 200 m and 500 m do not apply. That is semantics (i think) :)
Posted by RationalMadman 5 years ago
If you make a semantic error are you saying I can't address it? When you say 'no semantics'
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Reasons for voting decision: The debate kindly shows how one man is enough to distort the entire purpose and expected outcome of the debate. Such is the power of the individual exertion within systems that permit such repercussions to be effectively effectuated. =)