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heypranaynay
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Euthanasia should become Legalized in the US

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Started: 2/22/2015 Category: Science
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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heypranaynay

Pro

Euthanasia is defined as physical assisted suicide for patients who are in extreme physical pain (judged by the patient). I am willing to debate on the moral stand point as well the legal part of the debate. Questions are encouraged . Good luck to my opponent.
henryzietlow

Con

Hey there DeAngelo. My name is Tim, and I live in the wonderful state of West Virginia. I personally believe that Euthanasia should be banned, as it cannot be justified.
God does not believe in Euthanasia. In chapter 17 of Genesis, this is made clear. "That very day Abraham and his son Ish'mael were circumcised." You have to look at this as the metaphor it is. This is clearly representative of Euthanasia. This quote is clearly not one to take literally, and it needs to be interpreted so that you can see that Euthanasia is frowned upon by God.
Furthermore, Euthanasia sounds like a hipster band, and alternative music is stupid. Therefore, Euthanasia is by extension stupid, and for idiots.
Finally, God hates killing people, and Euthanasia is killing people. You are a terrible person for endorsing murder. If you kill people, you are no friend of God.
For the reasons above, Euthanasia is stupid.
I don't think you can argue against the bible, and if you try, it is clear that you haven't read the Bible
tl;dr- READ THE BIBLE. It will change your life. God has plans for you, and you should praise him and join the beautiful evangelical community
Debate Round No. 1
heypranaynay

Pro

Hi Tim! I would like to give you reasons as to why Euthanasia can be justified. I would like to remind everyone that Euthanasia isn't a solution for every terminally ill patient, but it is very helpful for those who choose to do so. Here is a story of an author's friend who is terminally-ill:

"Marge, I had no idea it would be so hard," Jean told me on the phone. "I've been saving pills for this, but now I'm afraid they won't work. You know, when you live to 93, you have a strong heart, and it isn't easy for it to stop."
Jean, a widow for 20 years, was a remarkable woman; strong, bright, clear-headed. She had been well able to take care of herself until a few months before. The uterine cancer that she had beaten at 86 had returned. Her long-time Aspen doctor, in whom she had great confidence, discussed the options with her. Chemotherapy was likely to give her time, but no cure.
(Fridstein)

It shows how hopeless people feel in times when faced with inevitable death.
Your reference of Genesis doesn't connect to Euthanasia. I would like to see you clarify this in your next argument.
You go on to say that Euthanasia sounds like a hipster band, and is for idiots. I urge my opponent to take this debate seriously because it is a very important debate in our society. Having a legitimate debate helps foster education on this topic. Not only is it disrespectful, but wastes time to those who want to have a educational debate.
God-
I don't want to get into a debate about god, because many don't believe in god or believe in a different version of god. Thus it is unfair to them. But if you wanted evidence from Christianity I will do that. God also wants people to live a peaceful life. Shown in 2 Corinthians 13:11 "Finally, brethren, farewell. Become complete. Be of good comfort, be of one mind, live in peace; and the God of love and peace will be with you." Unnecessary pain doesn't have a place in a comfortable life. Therefore, it is justifiable for Christians to accept mercy killing. Thus, Euthanasia abides by Christianity's morals.

Thank you for accepting this debate, and I urge you to take this topic seriously.

Fridstein, Margery. "It Is Merciful to Help a Terminally Ill Person Die." Assisted Suicide. Ed. No"l Merino. Detroit: Greenhaven Press, 2012. Current Controversies. Rpt. from "Lessons in Dying: What Is Wrong with Giving Up When Our Bodies Give Out?" Denver Post 28 Nov. 2010. Opposing Viewpoints in Context. Web. 21 Nov. 2014.
henryzietlow

Con

I would like to use this argument to quote genesis.
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

3 And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light "day," and the darkness he called "night." And there was evening, and there was morning"the first day.

6 And God said, "Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water." 7 So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the vault "sky." And there was evening, and there was morning"the second day.

9 And God said, "Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear." And it was so. 10 God called the dry ground "land," and the gathered waters he called "seas." And God saw that it was good.

11 Then God said, "Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds." And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening, and there was morning"the third day.

14 And God said, "Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth." And it was so. 16 God made two great lights"the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning"the fourth day.

20 And God said, "Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the vault of the sky." 21 So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living thing with which the water teems and that moves about in it, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 God blessed them and said, "Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth." 23 And there was evening, and there was morning"the fifth day.

24 And God said, "Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: the livestock, the creatures that move along the ground, and the wild animals, each according to its kind." And it was so. 25 God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.

26 Then God said, "Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals,[a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground."

27 So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.
28 God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground."

29 Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds in the sky and all the creatures that move along the ground"everything that has the breath of life in it"I give every green plant for food." And it was so.

31 God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning"the sixth day.
Thank you for joining me in being biblical. Vote con.
Debate Round No. 2
heypranaynay

Pro

heypranaynay forfeited this round.
henryzietlow

Con

Joey clearly can't deny my logic
Debate Round No. 3
heypranaynay

Pro

He can use evidence, but it needs to actually connect to the topic we are talking about. They are all quotes from the bible that don't have any relation to Euthanasia. So, he has no offence, and he didn't refute any of my arguments. So extend my arguments on how it gives choice to a patient. There is clearly no vote other than Pro.
henryzietlow

Con

Look Jim. You need to be following God. So, I will again quote the Bible.
Cleansing From Defiling Skin Diseases
14 The Lord said to Moses, 2 "These are the regulations for any diseased person at the time of their ceremonial cleansing, when they are brought to the priest: 3 The priest is to go outside the camp and examine them. If they have been healed of their defiling skin disease,[a] 4 the priest shall order that two live clean birds and some cedar wood, scarlet yarn and hyssop be brought for the person to be cleansed. 5 Then the priest shall order that one of the birds be killed over fresh water in a clay pot. 6 He is then to take the live bird and dip it, together with the cedar wood, the scarlet yarn and the hyssop, into the blood of the bird that was killed over the fresh water. 7 Seven times he shall sprinkle the one to be cleansed of the defiling disease, and then pronounce them clean. After that, he is to release the live bird in the open fields.

8 "The person to be cleansed must wash their clothes, shave off all their hair and bathe with water; then they will be ceremonially clean. After this they may come into the camp, but they must stay outside their tent for seven days. 9 On the seventh day they must shave off all their hair; they must shave their head, their beard, their eyebrows and the rest of their hair. They must wash their clothes and bathe themselves with water, and they will be clean.

10 "On the eighth day they must bring two male lambs and one ewe lamb a year old, each without defect, along with three-tenths of an ephah[b] of the finest flour mixed with olive oil for a grain offering, and one log[c] of oil. 11 The priest who pronounces them clean shall present both the one to be cleansed and their offerings before the Lord at the entrance to the tent of meeting.

12 "Then the priest is to take one of the male lambs and offer it as a guilt offering, along with the log of oil; he shall wave them before the Lord as a wave offering. 13 He is to slaughter the lamb in the sanctuary area where the sin offering[d] and the burnt offering are slaughtered. Like the sin offering, the guilt offering belongs to the priest; it is most holy. 14 The priest is to take some of the blood of the guilt offering and put it on the lobe of the right ear of the one to be cleansed, on the thumb of their right hand and on the big toe of their right foot. 15 The priest shall then take some of the log of oil, pour it in the palm of his own left hand, 16 dip his right forefinger into the oil in his palm, and with his finger sprinkle some of it before the Lord seven times. 17 The priest is to put some of the oil remaining in his palm on the lobe of the right ear of the one to be cleansed, on the thumb of their right hand and on the big toe of their right foot, on top of the blood of the guilt offering. 18 The rest of the oil in his palm the priest shall put on the head of the one to be cleansed and make atonement for them before the Lord.

19 "Then the priest is to sacrifice the sin offering and make atonement for the one to be cleansed from their uncleanness. After that, the priest shall slaughter the burnt offering 20 and offer it on the altar, together with the grain offering, and make atonement for them, and they will be clean.

21 "If, however, they are poor and cannot afford these, they must take one male lamb as a guilt offering to be waved to make atonement for them, together with a tenth of an ephah[e] of the finest flour mixed with olive oil for a grain offering, a log of oil, 22 and two doves or two young pigeons, such as they can afford, one for a sin offering and the other for a burnt offering.

23 "On the eighth day they must bring them for their cleansing to the priest at the entrance to the tent of meeting, before the Lord. 24 The priest is to take the lamb for the guilt offering, together with the log of oil, and wave them before the Lord as a wave offering. 25 He shall slaughter the lamb for the guilt offering and take some of its blood and put it on the lobe of the right ear of the one to be cleansed, on the thumb of their right hand and on the big toe of their right foot. 26 The priest is to pour some of the oil into the palm of his own left hand, 27 and with his right forefinger sprinkle some of the oil from his palm seven times before the Lord. 28 Some of the oil in his palm he is to put on the same places he put the blood of the guilt offering"on the lobe of the right ear of the one to be cleansed, on the thumb of their right hand and on the big toe of their right foot. 29 The rest of the oil in his palm the priest shall put on the head of the one to be cleansed, to make atonement for them before the Lord. 30 Then he shall sacrifice the doves or the young pigeons, such as the person can afford, 31 one as a sin offering and the other as a burnt offering, together with the grain offering. In this way the priest will make atonement before the Lord on behalf of the one to be cleansed."

32 These are the regulations for anyone who has a defiling skin disease and who cannot afford the regular offerings for their cleansing.

Cleansing From Defiling Molds
33 The Lord said to Moses and Aaron, 34 "When you enter the land of Canaan, which I am giving you as your possession, and I put a spreading mold in a house in that land, 35 the owner of the house must go and tell the priest, "I have seen something that looks like a defiling mold in my house." 36 The priest is to order the house to be emptied before he goes in to examine the mold, so that nothing in the house will be pronounced unclean. After this the priest is to go in and inspect the house. 37 He is to examine the mold on the walls, and if it has greenish or reddish depressions that appear to be deeper than the surface of the wall, 38 the priest shall go out the doorway of the house and close it up for seven days. 39 On the seventh day the priest shall return to inspect the house. If the mold has spread on the walls, 40 he is to order that the contaminated stones be torn out and thrown into an unclean place outside the town. 41 He must have all the inside walls of the house scraped and the material that is scraped off dumped into an unclean place outside the town. 42 Then they are to take other stones to replace these and take new clay and plaster the house.

43 "If the defiling mold reappears in the house after the stones have been torn out and the house scraped and plastered, 44 the priest is to go and examine it and, if the mold has spread in the house, it is a persistent defiling mold; the house is unclean. 45 It must be torn down"its stones, timbers and all the plaster"and taken out of the town to an unclean place.

46 "Anyone who goes into the house while it is closed up will be unclean till evening. 47 Anyone who sleeps or eats in the house must wash their clothes.

48 "But if the priest comes to examine it and the mold has not spread after the house has been plastered, he shall pronounce the house clean, because the defiling mold is gone. 49 To purify the house he is to take two birds and some cedar wood, scarlet yarn and hyssop. 50 He shall kill one of the birds over fresh water in a clay pot. 51 Then he is to take the cedar wood, the hyssop, the scarlet yarn and the live bird, dip them into the blood of the dead bird and the fresh water, and sprinkle the house seven times. 52 He shall purify the house with the bird"s blood, the fresh water, the live bird, the cedar wood, the hyssop and the scarlet yarn. 53 Then he is to release the live bird in the open fields outside the town. In this way he will make atonement for the house, and it will be clean."

54 These are the regulations for any defiling skin disease, for a sore, 55 for defiling molds in fabric or in a house, 56 and for a swelling, a rash or a shiny spot, 57 to determine when something is clean or unclean.

These are the regulations for defiling skin diseases and defiling molds.
Debate Round No. 4
heypranaynay

Pro

I would like to remind for the 3rd time. The resolution is Euthanasia should become Legalized in the US. It doesn't have to do with believing in god. There can be arguments on god with Euthanasia, but that is not what the opponent is doing. Again, Euthanasia is merciful for patients who choose to seek that route. Due to the nonexistent clash in this debate. I would like to remind my opponent not to make any new arguments because I do not have a 6th round to finally talk about Euthanasia. However, because we have been talking about I do want to end with one quote from a doctor:
"If I do not help him, do I not play God, taking away from him the option of a gentle and, in his eyes, a rational death"
Life is about rationality. The separation between truth, and falsehood, is required to live a meaningful life. There should not be a grey area. So if a patient deliberately asks to end their painful terminal life, it should be our duty as a society to give them the dignity. Thus I offer a set line that will separate the rational and irrational in medical decision. That is to legalize Euthanasia for quality of life to terminally ill patients. Thank you opponent for debating, and thank you reader for listening.
henryzietlow

Con

Marcus, I think that God wants you as a friend. Visit http://www.theevangelicalchurch.org... to learn more about the wonderful world of the evangelical church.
We value people becoming followers of Jesus Christ.
We believe God commands us to engage the harvest by bringing all people into a vital saving relationship with Jesus; therefore, we exhort each church to effectively impact their community through servant evangelism and to multiply through planting new churches in new communities.
We believe God commands us to provide a healthy church family for new believers as well as for the unchurched; therefore, we promote the revitalizing and renewal of existing churches through prayer, assessment tools and trained coaches who can walk with them into health.
We believe God commands us to disciple believers to experience the cleansing and empowering of the Holy Spirit in order to live holy lives out of a pure heart; therefore, a goal of discipleship, preaching, and teaching is to lead believers into this deeper life.
We believe God commands us to make disciples of all people; therefore, we actively recruit, appoint and place people overseas as well as working with ethnic groups in the United States. We partner with national churches as well as other mission groups to accomplish this mission.

We value God's revelation to us through Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit, the Bible, prayer and the church.

We believe in a vital holy relationship with Jesus Christ; therefore, we boldly proclaim the necessity of being cleansed from sin through the in-filling of the Holy Spirit so that we may be Christ-like.
We believe the Bible is God's inerrant revelation; therefore, we encourage all believers to engage in its systematic reading and study.
We believe in prayer; therefore, we promote the Intercessor teams, being alert to prayer opportunities in every gathering and prayer emphasis in the denominational publications.
We believe in the local church being a place of grace and growth where there is flexibility in worship and organization, with an adherence to the tenets of Faith.

We value the resources God gives us in leadership and money.

We believe that God entrusts us with leaders; therefore, we are developing a system of assessing, coaching and continuing education to enable them to be more effective ministers of the gospel.
We believe that God entrusts money to us for expanding His Kingdom; therefore, outreach will be a priority in spending.

God wants you. Choose the right path
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by benmellin 2 years ago
benmellin
Deangalo certainly makes some compelling points here but I think I have to hand this round to henryzietlow, for his reference to genesis was certainly the most thought-provoking argument I have heard in my 15 years as a masterdebater.
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