The Instigator
Stupidape
Pro (for)
The Contender
Dr.Downs
Con (against)

Every person in 1st world countries should abstain from eating meat.

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Started: 8/3/2016 Category: Health
Updated: 4 months ago Status: Debating Period
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Stupidape

Pro

Meat definition "1. the flesh of animals as used for food. " [0]

I will use vegetarian and abstaining from eating meat interchangeably from now on.

First, lets clear the air and claim that vegetarian diets are safe.
Warrant: [1]
Impact: vegetarian diets are safe for humans of all ages including children, infants, and unborn fetuses.

Claim 1: Meatless diets are better for the environment.
Warrant: Common knowledge.
Impact: This is additional incentive to become vegetarian.

Claim 2: Avoiding meat saves animals from suffering.
Warrant: Common knowledge.
Impact: This is good for many reasons, in general causing pain to others is considered to be immoral.

Claim 3: Buying meat produced in factory farms causes animal cruelty.
Warrant: No need to cause suffering to animals, thus cannot claim survival.
Impact: Animal cruelty is bad for a lot of reasons and avoiding this gives additional incentive to eat meatless.

Claim 4: Vegetarian diets are better for your health.
Warrant: Common knowledge.
Impact: Saving on your health is not only incentive, but helps alleviate health care costs.

0. http://www.thefreedictionary.com...
1. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...
Dr.Downs

Con

First Without meat The energy levels of us humans will be relitivly low. Now i do agree that everyone shout be eating some more greens but that is what the dank is for. Without meat How will us humans grow and continue to thrive throughout the first world countries. The slaughter houses will be out of business witch means less jobs, no more hunting and every store that sells meat could be out of business because meat plays a huge role in today's society. Animals will over populate and and potential destroy the circular of life.
Debate Round No. 1
Stupidape

Pro

"First Without meat The energy levels of us humans will be relitivly low." Dr.Downs

This is a claim without a warrant, and thus a bare assertion. I have no idea why my opponent claims that humans would have low energy levels without meat. Thus, I have nothing to rebut. I will take one stab in the dark though and state that as per link [1] vegetarian diets are nutritionally adequate.


"Now i do agree that everyone shout be eating some more greens but that is what the dank is for." Dr.Downs

The dank is for? What is that supposed to mean? Is this some sort of slang? I can only guess what my opponent meant by this statement.


"Without meat How will us humans grow and continue to thrive throughout the first world countries. The slaughter houses will be out of business witch means less jobs, no more hunting and every store that sells meat could be out of business because meat plays a huge role in today's society. Animals will over populate and and potential destroy the circular of life." Dr. Downs


Less jobs producing unhealthy foods and damaging the environment. There are plenty of help wanted signs in my area. Sure they are low paying jobs, but they are jobs nevertheless. [2]

" no more hunting" Dr. Downs

"and every store that sells meat could be out of business because meat plays a huge role in today's society. " Dr. Downs


Hunting for sport is a separate issue. Plenty of hunters hunt for sport and not meat. The stores could switch merchandise.

" Animals will over populate and and potential destroy the circular of life." Dr. Downs

They are trap, neuter, and release programs for deer.

"The results of this research suggest that, under a narrow set of conditions, surgical sterilization can be effective in controlling the growth of an urban white-tailed deer population." [3]

This is a good idea anyways because we don't want people firing off guns in suburban and urban areas aiming for deer.




2. http://www.thetelegram.com...
3. http://portal.nifa.usda.gov...

Dr.Downs

Con

You sound like you know what you are talking about but what you just said was the dumbest thing i have ever read. I just got aids by reading it. Meat is a better source for energy, that is just a fact and im not talking about deer i am talking about every animal to ever live within the upcoming years. You had no arguments because i am the superior Legend and if you must know every single hunter in the world do not just kill the animal just because they use it for all of its resources and leave none to waist. "Less jobs producing unhealthy foods" this was stated by you and this statement is so wrong i had a sezier after reading it. "Unhealthy" please explain why meat in "unhealthy" without meat how will you survive in the upcoming years? if humans and other plant eating animals eat only plants the food will become more scarse but for meat, the animals keep breeding and reproducing so that makes it unlimited supply if wee keep out ways and dont over hunt.
Debate Round No. 2
Stupidape

Pro

Meat is detrimental to human health because of the cholesterol, too much fat, saturated fat, heterocyclic amines, and bacteria which release endotoxins.

A plant based diet has fiber, antioxidants, and phytonutrients also know as phytochemicals.

Cholesterol even in small amounts is linked to degenerative disease. Too much fat builds up as intramyocellular lipds which reduces insulin sensitivity. Saturated fat increased blood viscosity which makes your heart work harder. Heterocyclic amines are carcinogens. Bacteria endotoxins cause an immune system response that causes inflammation.

Fiber helps with obesity and heart disease, antioxidants protect against cancer causing free radicals, phytonutrients have many beneficial affects.

If you want the scientific version of what I said got to nutritionfacts.org. [4 If you want the street talk go to these youtubes of Healing Cancer from Inside Out [5] and Forks over Knives. [6] Thanks for the debate.

4. http://nutritionfacts.org...
5. https://www.youtube.com...
6. https://www.youtube.com...
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