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FrankTheBob
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jmbeatty99
Con (against)
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Evolution > Creationism

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FrankTheBob
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Started: 5/14/2014 Category: Religion
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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FrankTheBob

Pro

I will be arguing that Evolution is more accurate than Creationism. My opponent will argue for Creationism being more accurate.

There will be 4 rounds.

Round 1:
Acceptance.

All other round are for making your arguments.

jmbeatty99

Con

Is evolution actually accurate? No. Are there any facts proving evolution? No. There have been no historically or scientifically proven facts that the human race evolved from tiny bacteria that were spontaneously brought to life from two little atoms forming an entire universe. Nothing is as great and complicated as the universe. It is so vast and amazing that we haven't even discovered 1/100,000,000 of a percent of it. Can you snap your fingers to make a rose? If you believe that there is no overall being that created everything, then a single rose must have come from somewhere. If you believe that, then you should be able to whip one up right quick. Oh, what's that? You can't? Well then how did the first rose come to being? There must have been something there to make it. That something is God.
You might ask me, "If there is a God that made everything, then what made God?" Well, nothing made God, because God didn't need something to create him. He has been there before time began and after time will end. He is the Almighty God who created you from the dust. What has been proven about evolution? Nothing has been proven, it is all theories. Darwin thought one day, "I wonder where humans came from?" Then he got this idea in his head that a tiny little organism almost instantly evolved into a prim ape, then a monkey, then that monkey became more and more like the humans we are today. Well if we evolved from monkeys, then why are there still monkeys with us today, and why haven't we witnessed them start to evolve? Ever since we started recording everything we did we haven't witnessed a single monkey show the tinniest sign of evolution. Answer that.
Debate Round No. 1
FrankTheBob

Pro

"Are there any facts proving evolution? No."

Actually, yes. There are fact's proving evolution. Lots of them. If I were to explain all of them to you, I would pass my 10,000 word cap, but because you said there are no facts proving evolution, I will list a few for you.
  • Evidence from Geographic Distribution

Data about the presence or absence of species on various continents and island.

  • Fossil Record

It is possible to find out how a particular group of organisms evolved by arranging its fossil records in a chronological sequence.

  • Evidence from Comparative Anatomy

Comparative study of the anatomy of groups of animals or plants reveals that certain structural features are basically similar.

  • Evidence from Observed Natural Selection

Examples for the evidence for evolution often stem from direct observation of natural selection in the field and the laboratory.

  • Evidence from computation and mathematical iteration

Computer science allows the iteration of self-changing complex systems to be studied, allowing a mathematical understanding of the nature of the processes behind evolution

  • ...and many more.

I don't have time to go into detail, but you can read more about these evidences here: http://en.wikipedia.org...

"There have been no historically or scientifically proven facts that the human race evolved from tiny bacteria that were spontaneously brought to life from two little atoms forming an entire universe."

I fail to see how this statement makes any since what so ever. Evolution doesn't even cover the origin of life.


"Can you snap your fingers to make a rose? If you believe that there is no overall being that created everything, then a single rose must have come from somewhere. If you believe that, then you should be able to whip one up right quick. Oh, what's that? You can't? Well then how did the first rose come to being? There must have been something there to make it."

.................WHAT!? Please explain this 'point'.


"That something is God."

Here is something we have no proof for. Not even a little bit.


"Darwin thought one day, "I wonder where humans came from?" Then he got this idea in his head that a tiny little organism almost instantly evolved into a prim ape, then a monkey, then that monkey became more and more like the humans we are today. Well if we evolved from monkeys, then why are there still monkeys with us today, and why haven't we witnessed them start to evolve?"

We didn't evolve from monkeys, we have a common ancestor. Saying that we evolved from monkeys or apes is like saying your cousin gave birth to you, she didn't, you two just have a common ancestor.


jmbeatty99

Con

jmbeatty99 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
FrankTheBob

Pro

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jmbeatty99

Con

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Debate Round No. 3
FrankTheBob

Pro

FrankTheBob forfeited this round.
jmbeatty99

Con

jmbeatty99 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by Sagey 3 years ago
Sagey
Science has no connection to religion.
Those who started Scientific Experiments in the world's first laboratories were Catholic Monks.
Because Catholic Monks believed that they could use science to discover God.
So they converted their wine testing laboratories into scientific laboratories, to discover God through science.
It's just happenstance that they did not discover God.
Instead they started one of the greatest human endeavors of human existence, the systematic investigation and discovery of Everything.
This systematic investigation of everything is SCIENCE.
It has nothing to do with Religion;
Evolution has nothing to do with Religion, most Evolutionists are currently Christians.
Even Charles Darwin was a Christian.
The great grandfather of Evolution: Leonardo da Vinci, painter of the "Last Supper" was a Christian.
Though he realized that the Genesis Flood never happened like it did in the Bible because of the Fossil Layers.
Posted by FrankTheBob 3 years ago
FrankTheBob
jimbeatty99: Tell me when you are ready and I will fore fit my turn so that you can make whatever point you wanted to.
Posted by jmbeatty99 3 years ago
jmbeatty99
You should have made the time limit more than a day.
Posted by SNP1 3 years ago
SNP1
jmbeatty99: Are you a troll? Just curious since your arguments are the same laughable arguments that were made YEARS ago.
Posted by BEASTxKNIGHTx12 3 years ago
BEASTxKNIGHTx12
did you know the person who thought of continantal drift was a christian so the person who sides with evolution going with christians in this debate.
Posted by FrankTheBob 3 years ago
FrankTheBob
I made a huge mistake making the respond time for one day. I'm such an idiot.
Posted by dawndawndawndawn 3 years ago
dawndawndawndawn
This: "...evolution is MORE accurate than creationism..."

is NONSENSE!

Creationism is, not, accurate, at all.
Posted by dawndawndawndawn 3 years ago
dawndawndawndawn
People walk all over the earth and see all sorts of things and have no idea what is going on.

Saying that only-if-people-were-there-would-they-know is nonsense.

People, who were many places, thought that earth is flat and they were/are WRONG.
Only by looking at data is the information acquired
Posted by Sagey 3 years ago
Sagey
LOL, The sediments keep a record.
Especially annual sediments like Glacial drifts where they occur every summer and thus you can count the years and work out how far back a fossil found within these lived.
Annual river flooding provides a sediment record that contains fossils of things that died and sank to the bottom to be covered by sediment and preserved.
The Earth keeps its own diaries.
Posted by jmbeatty99 3 years ago
jmbeatty99
How do you know it takes millions of years to evolve? There have been records kept since the beginning of time, yet no one has ever recorded the slightest sign of evolution. You guys can keep believing in your theories, but all you have on evolution's side is theories .
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Vote Placed by Sagey 3 years ago
Sagey
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro put up too much evidence for Con, it appears that Con chickened out of the contest. Pro's case was proven in the first argument.