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Evolution Is Correct

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Started: 4/1/2016 Category: Religion
Updated: 7 months ago Status: Post Voting Period
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729AO

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The age of the universe has been proven by looking to the farthest reaches of the universe, seeing how far we can see, and, knowing the speed of light, we can calculate how long ago the universe was created.
Logician1234

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Thank you 729AO for sending me this challenge. Let's start with your argument. First of all, I would ask you to submit a source from where you got that information. This is a common request, and it should be granted to prove your argument is verifiable. Secondly, a question about your argument. From what information was this conclusion derived? Secondly my argument. Let us assume that you were given multiple tiny pieces of paper, and were asked to draw each generation of a species transforming into another species. As evolution would suggest, there would be thousand of mutations throughout generations, and thus there would be thousands of papers. Now, bury all those papers in the ground. You should have thousand of creatures in between the two species, and only two full versions of either species. So if there were 10,000 papers, your odds of finding a pure species should be 1/5000 or 0.02%. So why is it, if the odds are so low, that we continue to find only pure versions of the species, and pure versions only?
Debate Round No. 1
729AO

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729AO forfeited this round.
Logician1234

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I forfeit the round, just to be fair.
Debate Round No. 2
729AO

Pro

First, I'll tell you that you can find that information from too many sources to name; you can find them all during the next 250 free hours you have. Secondly, light's speed; by looking at the time it took for light to get from one place to another the closer distances, by looking at the position of objects in the sky at opposite time of the year; parallax, and for the farther distances; you can read this; http://www.astronomynotes.com.... And thirdly, it doesn't start with only 2 species. And, only creatures from the same species can reproduce. And the reason that you find so many pure species is that once the species is established it can't mate with other species; before that point those creatures are just mutated versions of the previous species, which you don't find often anyway.
Logician1234

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Logician1234 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
729AO

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Logician1234

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Debate Round No. 4
729AO

Pro

I forfeit this round as I am waiting for my opponent's response.
Logician1234

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Logician1234 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by FollowerofChrist1955 8 months ago
FollowerofChrist1955
729AO
takyiur time ... I'm in no hurry, off to another site, catch up later :)
Posted by FollowerofChrist1955 8 months ago
FollowerofChrist1955
hehe I'm sorry just need to make sure you caught the last one:

(DNA) is the master molecule of every cell. The big cheese, the Big Kahuna, The All In All etc ....

It contains vital information that gets passed on to each successive generation.
*makes sure each generation IS successful.. (adaptability?)

It coordinates the making of itself as well as other molecules (proteins).

If it is changed slightly,
serious consequences may result. If it is destroyed beyond repair, the cell dies."

That's right not even mother nature IS allowed to mess with it otherwise .... WE WITHER AND DIES!

Soo when a hurricane comes through, or a Tornado hits or when we get struck by lightening ... are we made BETTER or just dead!
Posted by FollowerofChrist1955 8 months ago
FollowerofChrist1955
729AO, in consideration of your claim .... could I impose upon you some factual data .... just data please not opinion, speculation we think that or some such statement ... provide a link? BUT if I find a we believe, we think, we presume, well, then that's not a fact is it, it is a specultion, oh also the term it suggests ... suggestion is NOT fact its opinion isn't it.

as to My proof that evolution is nothing more than Gods creation of the DNA and Atom ... the links are Here:
https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov...
The order, or sequence, of these bases determines the information available for building and maintaining an organism, similar to the way in which letters of the alphabet appear in a certain order to form words and sentences.

http://www.livescience.com...
Deoxyribonucleic acid or DNA is a molecule that contains the instructions an organism needs to develop, live and reproduce.

http://biology.about.com...
"DNA contains the genetic information necessary for the production of other cell components, organelles, and for the reproduction of life."

https://www.sciencedaily.com...
All known cellular life and some viruses contain DNA.
The main role of DNA in the cell is the long-term storage of information.
It is often compared to a blueprint, since it contains the instructions to construct other components of the cell, such as proteins and RNA molecules

http://science.howstuffworks.com...
"Like the one ring of power in Tolkien's "Lord of the Rings," deoxyribonucleic acid (DNA) is the master molecule of every cell. It contains vital information that gets passed on to each successive generation. It coordinates the making of itself as well as other molecules (proteins). If it is changed slightly, serious consequences may result. If it is destroyed beyond repair, the cell dies."

oops ran out of room ... it appears there isn't room for ALL science website
Posted by FollowerofChrist1955 8 months ago
FollowerofChrist1955
Evolution by reason of adaptability IS correct, but that's because the DNA which comprises all organisms has placed within it's coding the necessary CODES to ensure the maintenance and survivability of an organism, that's science 101. Darwin's theory .... and YES it remains a theory; is incorrect as there is and continues to BE NO fossils that can BE proven to have BEEN anything else other than what it was; to suggest otherwise would still FALL under hypothesis, conjecture and theory, which cannot BE used as a FACT!

You needn't be a scholar to know this, you simply have to have a little common sense to derive at this position. In the fossil record there are Millions of dinosaur bones, Horse Bones, sloth bones, amphibian bones, impressions of dragon flies (3ft long yes) BUT still look like dragon flies today. Frog bones, mosquitoes , plants, prints, monkey bones, whale bones, elephant bones .... what IS MISSING are Bones of MUTATING creatures. IF Darwin's theory WAS correct as the man himself was smart enough to admit ... WHY is there NOT Fossils IN THE MILLIONS of mutating animals? Just shows that unlike Darwin .... some of Man may not have EVOLVED in keeping with future improvement?

I mean really, you find and organism ... a bacteria, a microcelled object, a bone which resembles something and you shout EUREKA!!!!!! WE'VE DONE IT! we after hundreds of years have found AN organism ..... A fossil which LOOKS like 2 different creatures .... evolution s proved! forget about the MIllions upon Millions of other bones that do NOT look like other things ... oh please.
Posted by SpentBrass 8 months ago
SpentBrass
Also, 729, the reason "scientific computers" say what they do is because they were programmed to say so.
Posted by SpentBrass 8 months ago
SpentBrass
Sheesh, 729AO is stupid. He once posted "Texas sucks" on an argument and now says that evolution is correct. Way to go Logician!
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