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SilentWhisper96
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Danielle
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Evolution is Non-Scientific

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Started: 8/31/2010 Category: Science
Updated: 6 years ago Status: Voting Period
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SilentWhisper96

Pro

Darwin once said (The Origin of Species, New York, 1902, Part Two, p. 83), "If numerous species... have really started into life at once, the fact would be fatal to the theory of evolution." What does the fossil record support?

The Bulletin of Chicago's Field Museum of Natural History (January 1979, Volume 50, No. 1, pp. 22, 23) said, "Darwin's theory of [evolution] has always been closely linked to evidence from fossils, and probably most people assume that fossils provide a very important part of the general argument that is made in favor of Darwinian interpretations of the history of life. Unfortunately, this is not strictly true... the geologic record did not then and still does not yield a finely graduated chain of slow and progressive evolution."

Zoologist Harold Coffin stated (Liberty, September/October 1975, p.12): If progressive evolution from simple to complex is correct, the ancestors of these full-blown living creatures in the Cambrian should be found ; but they have not been found and scientist's admit there is little prospect of their ever being found. On the basis of what is actually found in the earth, the theory of a sudden creative act in which the major forms of life were established fits best."

Sufficient fossils have been found to draw a sound conclusion. Notice what Smithsonian Institution scientist Porter King said, (New Scientist, January 15, 1981, p.129) "There are a hundred million fossils, all catalogued and identified in museums around the world."

Think about the scientific method. Do those who believe in and teach evolution really follow the scientific method?
Danielle

Con

Pro's essential criticism of evolution is that it does not adhere to the scientific method. I negate.

The scientific method is the process by which scientists endeavor to construct an accurate representation of the world. Recognizing that personal and cultural beliefs influence both our perceptions and our interpretations of natural phenomena, we aim through the use of standard procedures and criteria to minimize those influences when developing a theory [1]. In order for something to be considered a scientific theory, it must meet certain criteria and prove to be:

- Consistent (internally & externally)
- Parsimonious (sparing in proposed entities or explanations)
- Useful (describes & explains observed phenomena)
- Empirically Testable & Falsifiable
- Based upon Controlled, Repeated Experiments
- Correctable & Dynamic (changes are made as new data is discovered)
- Progressive (achieves all that previous theories have & more)
- Tentative (admits that it might not be correct rather than asserting certainty) [2].

EXPLANATION OF HOW THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD IS APPLIED TO PROVE EVOLUTION:

== Evolution is Consistent ==

Evolution does not contradict the laws of chemistry or physics or other physical sciences. Additionally, there is essentially universal agreement in the scientific community that the evidence of evolution is overwhelming, and the scientific consensus supporting the modern evolutionary synthesis is nearly absolute [3, 4, 5]. We have evidence that supports evolutionary theory and common descent; we don't have evidence of anything else. Questions about evolution do not verify creationism.

== Evolution is Parsimonious ==

Evolution is the genetic change over time. This concept, unlike creationism, does not require us to imagine anything new or unusual in the universe like gods. Instead, the explanations in defense of evolution are largely scientifically verifiable.

== Evolution is Useful ==

Denial of evolution amounts to denial of the foundations of modern biology. Evolution explains anatomical and biochemical similarities between different living organisms, including the vestigial components; why embryos of many organisms develop characteristics very different from the adult organism, but then lose those characteristics in later development; why large amounts of the DNA of many living organisms have little or no function; drug resistant bacteria; ring species; biography; the fossil record, etc. Evolution is the conceptual paradigm that ties together all the life sciences. Without the explanatory framework provided by the theory of evolution, the biological sciences would be disjointed and much within biology would not make sense [6].

== Evolution Can Be Empirically Tested ==

In order to test a theory, you must first make a prediction by utilizing information to infer or explain past events or physical states. You then devise a way to test the theory and see if it adds up. Not only is this possible with evolution, but it's been proven and explained to the point of being near universally accepted by scientists. Evolution is a theory just like gravity and relativity are theories. However we're able to prove gravity through explanation. We can do the same with evolution. Organisms have been observed to adapt themselves to better survive in their environment. Cockroaches have adapted to certain pesticides, and virii mutate to become resistant to vaccines and antibiotics. Evolution is simply how things happen in nature [7]. Evolution can and HAS been tested.

== Evolution is Based Upon Controlled, Repeated Experiments; is Falsifiable; and Correctable ==

The theory of evolution has evolved over time depending on the latest evidence to emerge. Today it is indeed a different theory than the one Darwin has described, and we can expect it to change and develop even further considering there are still gaps in our complete understanding of the theory. However, none of the observable facts stand contrary to the idea of genetic change over time. Additionally, there are innumerable tests and studies done to observe the effects of evolution which prove that this theory has been tested, reviewed and verified [8, 9, 10]. It is also possible to falsify evolution, meaning if it were actually done then evolution would succumb to intellectual defeat. However none of the presented evidence has been able to disprove evolution. Instead, creationists cite a "lack of evidence" which is a vehemently rejected notion by most scientists - 95% of them [11], and does not disprove the theory anyway but merely challenges it.

= Evolution is Progressive and Tentative ==

This is self-explanatory. Austin Cline best explains, "The idea that a scientific theory should be progressive means that a new scientific theory should build on earlier scientific theories. In other words, a new theory must explain what previous theories explained at least as well as they did while providing a new understanding for additional material — something which evolution does. Another way to see how scientific theories need to be progressive is that they can be shown to be superior to competing theories. It should be possible to compare several explanations for a phenomenon and find that one does a much better job than the others. This is true of evolution" [2].

CONCLUSION:

Evolution easily meets the criteria for scientific theories. Furthermore it meets the criteria for the scientific method. The concept was derived scientifically and arrived at by examining nature; this stands contrary to theories that rival evolution like creationism. Pro's ONLY presented criticism is evolution not adhering to the scientific method (which I disproved), and that Darwin's theory was incomplete which I admitted and explained was common for nearly all theories. Many of Einstein's theories including relativity, for example, have been expanded on and "perfected" after their inception based on the emergence of new evidence, which is responsible. Just because Darwin was not 100% correct does not disprove evolution. And finally, just because many fossils are missing, incomplete or have not been found also does not disprove evolution. The laws of logic explain that a lack of evidence cannot be used to disprove something [12]. Additionally, there is no noted evidence for creationism.

I eagerly await Pro's explanation of how evolution is not scientific.

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Debate Round No. 1
SilentWhisper96

Pro

SilentWhisper96 forfeited this round.
Danielle

Con

Please extend my arguments. Thank you.
Debate Round No. 2
SilentWhisper96

Pro

SilentWhisper96 forfeited this round.
Danielle

Con

Extend my arguments. Thank you.
Debate Round No. 3
SilentWhisper96

Pro

SilentWhisper96 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
SilentWhisper96

Pro

SilentWhisper96 forfeited this round.
Danielle

Con

I have defeated Pro's weak argument, and she has not offered one rebuttal to my claims. She has been online several times while this debate took place, but chose purposefully to forfeit every round.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by Erick 6 years ago
Erick
Yeah it is really d!cky of you to go to my debate and vote bomb it too.
Posted by annhasle 6 years ago
annhasle
SilentWhisper96 had NO idea what was coming at her when the Lwerd accepted... Yikes. Lol :D
Posted by J.Kenyon 6 years ago
J.Kenyon
Lol, I was gonna post this if my opponent forfeited the evolution debate.
Posted by mrsmooth27 6 years ago
mrsmooth27
...I think SilentWhisper is busy respawning...maybe she'll argue a later round...
Posted by mrsmooth27 6 years ago
mrsmooth27
Boom! Headshot.
Posted by Puck 6 years ago
Puck
Must be anti evolution season.
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