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ADHDavid
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DiverseSynergy
Pro (for)
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Evolution is a lie

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 3/25/2015 Category: Science
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 513 times Debate No: 72321
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ADHDavid

Con

Many people claim the evolution is just theory, and that all of the species on Earth were designed by a intellegent, omnipotent creator. I would prefer a member of the Abrahamic relgions to debate with. Thank you in advance. I will be for/pro Evolution.
DiverseSynergy

Pro

Hi there. I'm a proponent of one of the Abrahamic religions, and I am also a scientist - so I think this will add an interesting dynamic for this debate!

Firstly, I've taken the challenge of being "pro" your proposed lemma, however I'm not 100% certain that Evolution can be declared a "lie" based on the available evidence. I am arguing more from a position that with my "scientist hat" on I have several issues with the theory of Evolution as a self-contained explanation for the existence of life and species on this planet. Ironically enough with my "theological hat" on, it genuinely makes little difference to me whether the Evolutionary theory holds or not. A deity could have created the Earth as it is, or he/she/it could have created the cosmos with the knowledge that the Earth and diversity of life could have arisen over aeons of time - Evolution just being one part within that whole process. To my mind creationism and evolutionary theory are not necessarily mutually exclusive at all.

Secondly, I used to blindly believe what I was taught at school about Evolution and just accepted it as fact. It is only having studied the theory in more detail as an adult that I have severe issues with several of its facets. I think Evolution is true up to a point, but the extent of that point is probably much more limited than the current popular view seems to be. I will debate this in more detail in later rounds, but in a nutshell if you're talking about evolution from the point of view of say: ancient version of fish eventually becomes a more modern version of fish which has become more adapted to its surroundings over time - no problem. I'm less convinced at the suggestion that evolution could cause one species to become an entirely different species over time - there is little sensible evidence that sufficient information to allow for this could get added to the genome through mutation and evolution, so to get the whole way from single cell organisms to primates doesn't actually make any sense through standalone random evolution (it also goes against the grain of entropy). Then finally, to get from some primordial soup of chemicals to the simultaneous creation of RNA and DNA and the sudden "coming into being" of a self-replicating cell through some process similar to evolution - this really ought to start sounding alarm bells in the mind of any self-professed rational scientist. But then even if I could suspend all rational scepticism at this point and accept that this primordial soup scenario was actually plausible, it still wouldn't explain where the matter and energy of this universe came from in the first place.

Thirdly, I'm not arrogant enough to believe I have all the answers. To my mind every human being is on a constant journey of discovery of knowledge (and dare I say "truth"), and it is healthy to regularly review one's position based on the information and evidence we come across in life - and most importantly by debating with people who hold different worldviews and to consider their position with reference to that of our own. I believe the biggest mistake anyone can make is to think that they are definitely correct in any given position to the exclusion of listening to other worldviews - that is misguided, and this will only serve to stunt your own learning capability if you adopt that type of stance. In short, you never learn anything if you think you already know everything.

I'm greatly looking forward to the debate, and I await the opening arguments of the "Con" side of the debate in due course.
Debate Round No. 1
ADHDavid

Con

ADHDavid forfeited this round.
DiverseSynergy

Pro

I will pass this round, to allow the Con argument to make a case in Round 3 if they wish to.

I would encourage the Con side to engage into this debate, as it would be a shame not to discuss this and for me to hear their thoughts.
Debate Round No. 2
ADHDavid

Con

ADHDavid forfeited this round.
DiverseSynergy

Pro

Shame that, I was looking forward to hearing some points from the other side of the argument. Perhaps another time.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by DrewMcD 1 year ago
DrewMcD
Gravity is "just a theory" but everyone knows it to be true. That's my view on evolution.
Posted by Courtnic2 1 year ago
Courtnic2
Yeah that's a good debate.
Posted by Jonnykelly 1 year ago
Jonnykelly
Anyone looking at this: Please visit the debate that I am currently in about the same topic. I won't waste my time debating the same thing again, but I think the debate is pretty insightful. Votes are appreciated at the end of it.
Posted by FlaouaPaoua 1 year ago
FlaouaPaoua
I am a pastafrian, not a Jew/Muslim/Christian, can I argue?
Posted by Courtnic2 1 year ago
Courtnic2
Good topic. I would take this but I'm in the middle of another debate right now.
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Vote Placed by Sashil 1 year ago
Sashil
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Reasons for voting decision: Forfiet.
Vote Placed by ewolf 1 year ago
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Reasons for voting decision: It may actually have been a good debate. The Pro put effort into accepting the debate with passion. The Pro appeared to be a worthy opponent. It is sad that the debate was forfeited.