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F-22 Raptor is the superior aircraft against the F-35 Lightning II

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Started: 3/3/2016 Category: Technology
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H-bomb2001

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The F-22 is clearly the superior aircraft. Although astronomically expensive it is still no were near the price of the F-35, there is a reason why the F-35 is known as the billion dollar aircraft. When it comes down to performance and weapons capability the F-22 wins in nearly every single section. The only clear thing the F-35 has over the F-22 is its VTOL abilities. Performance wise the F-22 can slightly exceed mach 2, the F-35 can barley reach mach 1.5 even though it is a single engine fighter it has no excuses as the plane that it was meant to replace the F-16 (One of the greatest fighters of all time.) can exceed mach 2. When it comes to weapons the f-22 has a 20mm Vulcan six barreled automatic cannon with 460 rounds not much and this can all be dispensed in slightly under 5 seconds. The F-35 has a disappointing 180 rounds wich can be dispensed in about 1.25 seconds. When it comes to the real killers of modern day dog fighters The F-22 can carry eight missiles of various types plus a 1,000 pound laser guided bomb the F-35 can only carry four missiles and no bombs or other types of munitions. The F-22 as you can see is obviously the superior Aircraft.
NOTRANSENXD

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The Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II is a family of single-seat, single-engine, all-weather stealth multirole fighters undergoing final development and testing by the United States. The fifth generation combat aircraft is designed to perform ground attack, aerial reconnaissance, and air defense missions. The F-35 has three main models: the F-35A conventional takeoff and landing (CTOL) variant, the F-35B short take-off and vertical-landing (STOVL) variant, and the F-35C carrier-based Catapult Assisted Take-Off But Arrested Recovery (CATOBAR) variant. On 31 July 2015, the first squadron was declared ready for deployment after intensive testing by the United States.[14][15]

The F-35 is descended from the X-35, which was the winning design of the Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) program. It is being designed and built by an aerospace industry team led by Lockheed Martin. Other major F-35 industry partners include Northrop Grumman, Pratt & Whitney and BAE Systems. The F-35 took its first flight on 15 December 2006. The United States plans to buy 2,457 aircraft. The F-35 variants are intended to provide the bulk of the manned tactical airpower of the U.S. Air Force, Navy, Marine Corps over the coming decades. Deliveries of the F-35 for the U.S. military are scheduled to be completed in 2037.[16]

F-35 JSF development is being principally funded by the United States with additional funding from partners. The partner nations are either NATO members or close U.S. allies. The United Kingdom, Italy, Australia, Canada, Norway, Denmark, the Netherlands, and Turkey are part of the active development program;[17][18] several additional countries have ordered, or are considering ordering, the F-35.

The program is the most expensive military weapons system in history, and it has been the object of much criticism from those inside and outside government " in the US and in allied countries.[19] Critics argue that the plane is "plagued with design flaws," with many blaming the procurement process in which Lockheed was allowed "to design, test, and produce the F-35 all at the same time, instead of ... [identifying and fixing] defects before firing up its production line."[19] By 2014, the program was "$163 billion over budget [and] seven years behind schedule."[20] Critics further contend that the program's high sunk costs and political momentum make it "too big to kill."[21]
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Posted by Sciguy 11 months ago
Sciguy
I am assuming this was going to be your next argument.

"JSF program requirements and selection[edit]
Main article: Joint Strike Fighter program
The JSF program was designed to replace the United States military F-16, A-10, F/A-18 (excluding newer E/F "Super Hornet" variants) and AV-8B tactical fighter and attack aircraft. To keep development, production, and operating costs down, a common design was planned in three variants that share 80 percent of their parts:[dated info]

F-35A, conventional take off and landing (CTOL) variant.
F-35B, short-take off and vertical-landing (STOVL) variant.
F-35C, carrier-based CATOBAR (CV) variant.
Engineer handling a metallic scale model of jet fighter in wind-tunnel
An F-35 wind tunnel testing model in the Arnold Engineering Development Center's 16-foot transonic wind tunnel
George Standridge, Vice President of Strategy and Business Development for Lockheed Martin Aeronautics, and a naval aviator who flew the F/A-18 Hornet in both the U.S. Navy and the Naval Reserve, predicted in 2006 that the F-35 would be four times more effective than legacy fighters in air-to-air combat, eight times more effective in air-to-ground combat, and three times more effective in reconnaissance and Suppression of Enemy Air Defenses " while having better range and requiring less logistics support and having around the same procurement costs (if development costs are ignored) as legacy fighters.[22] The design goals call for the F-35 to be the premier strike aircraft through 2040 and to be second only to the F-22 Raptor in air supremacy.[23]"

Judging by your age, your intellect, and your pure 'understanding' of this plane I am assuming you were in the Air-force or Navy.

Thank you for your 'service'!

Source- https://en.wikipedia.org...
Posted by Sciguy 11 months ago
Sciguy
*plagiarized*
Posted by Sciguy 11 months ago
Sciguy
@NOTRANSENXD you're argument is illegal and you have plagerised information!

https://en.wikipedia.org...
Posted by TheRussian 11 months ago
TheRussian
Yeah idk how one could really argue that the F-35 is better, it's worse in like every category XD
Posted by Davery 11 months ago
Davery
You know, this is a very interesting debate but I am not going to take it solely because I do not know enough about the actual topic to feel comfortable giving my piece. What I do know is that vtol is very useful and shouldn't be taken for granted. the f-22 sounds like a very viable option which is why I think this is so interesting. All I know is that the A-10 can't go out
Good luck
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