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Facebook is likely to decrease in popularity due to its increasing limitations

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 5/4/2012 Category: Society
Updated: 5 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Pro

The central question: “how likely are you to continue using Facebook considering all its limitations?”.

Here are the arguments:

Facebook has undergone a number of transitions and transformations since their launch in 2004. From a change in business operations, revenue models, terms of service, layouts (such as timeline) and more recently their decision for an initial public stock offering; all factors which have affected public opinion of Facebook in some way or another.

Example 1: the switch to the ‘timeline’ layout instantaneously revealed all a user's past interactions to everyone which many found quite an astounding and arrogant move. Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk...

Example 2: The move for an initial public stock offering has people wondering now even more why Facebook needs so much money to remain operating. It makes them feel they are simply being used as tools and being capitalized on. Source: http://www.mobiledia.com...

Limitations include:
- too centralized
- commercial
- no option to be anonymous
- too addictive and distractive, almost like heroin
- automatic photo and location tagging
- impose orders to reveal identity
- promote privacy to conceal fact that there really is no privacy
- safety against access by third parties not guaranteed
- claim no responsibility for unforced third-party access
- much too large organization by revenue figures alone
- capital growth has gone suspiciously fast
- restricted only to adding people you know, no connecting to random strangers
- want to know everything about you, who you’ve ever known
- you’re profile is a mere tool to make FB sick amounts of money
- once you’re dead, you’re profile is removed to save hard drive space and keep it sustainable
- Follow your whereabout through your smartphone
- too much linked to your actual identity
- ‘like’ button is old fashioned, simple and annoying
- affects functioning in real life and true personal growth and development as opposed to virtual
- limits human talent and growth potential
- affects student grades
- makes one stupid

These factors are necessary to take into account for Facebook to be able to recognize where their flaws are if they want to retain user-base in the future and remain growing.

Please begin directly with your arguments and then we will go on to round 2.

whyt3nn3rdy

Con

I will argue the Con side to this debate and argue that Facebook is not likely to decrease in popularity due to its increasing limitations.

Example 1: Timeline

In the article that Pro cited, he forgets the main statements made that negates his point.
First:
"Facebook insists that it will not make anything publicly available which is not already viewable."
Second:
"Timeline does not change any of your existing privacy settings."
And so on.

The majority of this article is stating the benefits of the timeline feature to one's privacy. It also makes the point that Timeline will make people more aware of what they post. Being that this is true, seeing posts from the past that one may not like, will convince them to look over what they post before they do. Also, before Timeline was officially released, Facebook gave the users a week to remove anything on their profile that they did not want to be viewable.

This raises the question of why would people post anything that they would one day not want to be viewable by their friends? The question is not the format that the information appears, but the information itself. People do not like the Timeline feature because it shows them that in the past, they were not aware of how public Facebook really was.

Example 2: Facebook's move for a public stock offering has nothing to do with it's limitations, so this point will be thrown out immediately.

Limitations:
- too centralized - Facebook has to be centralized because it is a social networking website. Everything that goes onto Facebook goes through the Facebook network. Therefore, it has to be centralized, this cannot, and has not changed.

- commercial - This is not a limitation to Facebook. Just because some people can spend money for points on games does not limit one's fun while playing that game. Otherwise, this is not even a limitation that would make people stray from Facebook.

- no option to be anonymous - Facebook is a public networking site, the inability to be anonymous does not have an effect on people that are already on Facebook, this is also not a increasing limitation. Besides, you can, in fact, create another account under an anonymous name if you really pleased.

- too addictive and distractive, almost like heroin - this is not a limitation, it will not be argued.

- automatic photo and location tagging - this is also not a limitation, maybe an addition, if you may. This feature can also be turned off.

- impose orders to reveal identity - Cross apply my argument that being anonymous on a social networking cite is counterproductive to an individual on this website. Facebook is essentially about publishing your identity online.

- promote privacy to conceal fact that there really is no privacy - There are so many privacy settings on Facebook that this argument does not stand valid. If you want proof, just log on and go to privacy settings. This is also not a new limitation, privacy has increased over time.

- safety against access by third parties not guaranteed - this is also not a limitation to the users of Facebook. Privacy settings themselves can block out third parties from viewing your profile.

- claim no responsibility for unforced third-party access - If this is referring to colleges or employers that ask you for your email and password for Facebook, this is not Facebook's responsibility. If this is a problem to you, you are clearly not posting things you with to be "public." This is the user's fault, not Facebook's.

- much too large organization by revenue figures alone - This is not a limitation to Facebook users.

- capital growth has gone suspiciously fast - This is not a limitation to Facebook users.

- restricted only to adding people you know, no connecting to random strangers - I just went online and checked if I was able to add a stranger, and I was. This point proves invalid.

- want to know everything about you, who you've ever known - This is not a limitation to Facebook users. You have the option to provide this information; the keyword here is "option."

- you're profile is a mere tool to make FB sick amounts of money - This is not a limitation to Facebook users.

- once you're dead, you're profile is removed to save hard drive space and keep it sustainable - My friend who died 3 years ago had a Facebook account. It is still up, and people use it to post memories of him.

- Follow your whereabout through your smartphone - This is not a limitation to Facebook users. You also have the option to not "check in."

- too much linked to your actual identity - Pro proposes that people use Facebook in order to conceal their identity from their friends. Essentially, this is untrue because Facebook is completely Public, and using it to hide who you are would make no sense.

- ‘like' button is old fashioned, simple and annoying - This is not a limitation to Facebook users. Taking away this, however, like Pro would like to, would indeed limit the users of Facebook.

- affects functioning in real life and true personal growth and development as opposed to virtual - This is not a limitation to Facebook users, or make them stray away from Facebook. It is their personal responsibility to grow and develop outside of Facebook. We cannot blame Facebook for everything.

- limits human talent and growth potential - This is not a limitation to Facebook users. Cross apply my last argument here.

- affects student grades - This is not a limitation to Facebook users. Cross apply my last argument here in the sense that it is a student's own initiative to learn that affects their grades, not Facebook.

- makes one stupid - This is not a limitation to Facebook users, and not proven. Again, this is based on the initiative of the people, we cannot blame Facebook.

These factors are important to refute, because if not, Facebook will be blamed before the student. If a college looks at a student's grades, under Pro's interpretation of what happens, they should say "Oh, it's okay, it was Facebook that made him get bad grades." We all know that though this is a lovely excuse for a bad report card, it does not make sense. It is a person's fault, not Facebook's.

For all of these reasons, please vote Con in today's debate.
Debate Round No. 1
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Pro

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whyt3nn3rdy

Con

Extend all of my arguments.
Debate Round No. 2
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Pro

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whyt3nn3rdy

Con

Extend all of my arguments to this round.

I thank my opponent for initiating this debate.

Vote Con.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by whyt3nn3rdy 5 years ago
whyt3nn3rdy
Some of your "limitations" are completely different arguments, so I won't argue them.
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